Theos-Talk Archives (November 2002 Message tt00353)

GREETINGS,

I HAVE NOT MET HIM, BUT HAVE KNOWN SOME OF HIS DISCIPLES YEARS AGO. 
ONE YOUNG MAN TOLD ME OF BEING SEXUALLY FONDLED BY HIM 
FOR 'HEALING'. NOW APPARENTLY NUMEROUS PRESENT YOUTHS AND FORMER 
MOLESTED YOUTHS HAVE COME FORWARD TELLING OF YEARS PEDOPHILIA 
COMMITTED BY HIM....CONFIRMING EXACTLY WHAT THE YOUNG MAN TOLD ME. I 
HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD BY HIS DISCIOPLES THAT THEY HAVE WITNESSED HIS 
SLIGHT-OF-HAND 'MIRACLES'. AT THE WORLD HINDU CONFERENCE AND OTHER 
OCCASIONS OF CLOSE ASSOCIATION WITH HINDU 'MIRACLE' WORKERS, I WAS 
OFTEN ABLE TO DETECT THEIR TRICKERY. MOST OF IT WORKS BECAUSE OF 
THEIR SUCCESSFUL ABILITY TO DISTRACT THEIR VIEWERS FROM THE REAL 
CAUSE OF THE 'MIRACLE'. 

SPEAKING OF 'MIRACLES', ABOUT A PREVIOUS POST HERE CONCERNING THE 
LETTER BEHIND THE PICTURE...IF IT HAD A CLOTH OR PAPER BACKING ON IT, 
AS MANY FRAMED PICTURES DO, A RAZOR SLICE COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO 
CONSEAL THE LETTER, BY SLIPPING IT INSIDE OF THE FRAME, BEHIND THE 
PICTURE UNDETECTED. 

PRAYING FOR THE VICTIMS OF SUCH CHARLATANS AND MOLESTERS,

BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI
--- In theos-talk@y..., "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hi Brain and all of you,
> 
> As "credentials" seems to have importance to you I have a question 
to ask a
> question - although it is a little offline.
> 
> What "credentials" do you (Brian) think the so-called Avatar guru 
Sathya Sai
> Baba from Puttaparthi India has ?
> Has his life only been a fake since he left school 14 years old ?
> Have you ever meet the guy ?
> Has anyone on this list ? And what are their comments ?
> 
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with great fun...
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "brianmuehlbach" <brianmuehlbach@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 2:46 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re.The Mahatma Letters.
> 
> 
> > leonmaurer wrote: less and less sense to anyone who can THINK.
> >
> > Brian: An intelligent Theosophists who long left this list 
although (in
> spite
> > of him not being on Theos talk) you keep addressing postings to 
him,
> > Jerry, wrote me once on the list where he "really" is: "talking 
to Leon
> > Maurer is like talking to a brick wall, but a prickly one."
> >
> > Seeing your post today, I must say Jerry Schueler is right.
> >
> > As for "credentials", I know they say yours are close to zero.
> >
> > Bhakti Anada Goswhami , I only know him from his letters, made 
an
> > intelligent impression on me. As for his credentials, I looked 
them up ,
> > see below.
> >
> > Reading it reminds me , after he left this list due to receiving 
only
> > nitpikkers post , I really should write him and ask to come back 
to write
> > the "Mahatma Letter" commentary he mentioned he might write at 
first.
> >
> > He lives in India, an before becoming disabled by post-polio-
syndrome,
> > he lectured in the USA and overseas. He was the Mainland USA
> > Delegate to the 1982 academic and religious World Hindu 
Conference co-
> > sponsored by the Governments of Tamil Nadu India and Sri Lanka, 
and
> > held at the Summit of Non-Aligned Nations in Sri Lanka.
> >
> > While still on his college-contracted independent study tour, he 
was
> > invited by the Prime Minister of Nepal Nagendra Prasad Rijal, to 
sit on
> > the Executive Committee of the World Hindu Organization,
> > under the Patronage of King Birendra. And he worked on the
> > Organization's Nepal International Zone of Peace and Nuclear Non-
> > proliferation Non Governmental Organization platforms for the 
United
> > Nations.
> >
> > He completed the oral presentation of his interdisciplinary 
extended
> > master's degree in the history of religion, comparative religion 
and
> > theology in the USA. However, he was hospitalized on a respirator
> > before he could complete the publication of his Thesis and obtain 
his
> > Degree.
> >
> > In 1993, he was a Sponsor and Presenter at the Centennial World
> > Parliament of Religions in Chicago, USA. And in 2000, he gave a 
West
> > Coast L.A. County Museum Tour and Lecture series on Egyptian, 
Greek,
> > Jewish and Vaishnava connections in the pre-Christian Era. And
> > organized an exhibit tour at the L.A. County Museum "Pharaohs of 
the
> > Sun" Exhibit.
> >
> > He was invited to present two papers on the subject of ancient
> > Vaishnava and Afro-Helleno-Semitic, Shaivite and Buddhist 
connections
> > at the major World Association for Vedic Studies academic 
conference
> > held at the Stevens Institute of Technology in late 2000, he 
recieved
> > and actual ovation after his presentation, and not a single 
scholar could
> > challenge either his evidence or his conclusions. There was a 
full-page
> > article in the News-India Times about this.
> >
> > He gave up to a half-hour long, RBC Radio in India on such Days 
and
> > Festivals as Maha Kumba Mela, Durga Puja, and Gita Jayanti to 
hundreds
> > of thousands listeners.
> >
> > But due to polio muscle exhaustion, after his demanding two week 
West
> > Coast Tour, he lost his ability to produce a voice for several 
months. But
> > he next do an East Coast tour that began by presenting two of his
> > papers at the WAVES conference, followed by a two weeks tour.
> >
> > Last week his personal assistant (his daughter) wrote that it is 
unlikely
> > that he will be able to attend the upcoming , World Association 
for Vedic
> > Studies, he is currently also not able to do radio programs, and 
suffers
> > periodic central vision loss.
> >
> > But he is not "made up" as you ,leonmaurer@a. claim, he is a real
> > person.
> >
> > 
http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~muehleb9
> > --- In theos-talk@y..., leonmaurer@a... wrote:
> >
> > > >Brian : I posted clearly WHY the letters where typed in
> > > >all caps, I decided to do the most fair I could think of , 
give this
> > > obviously expert person, a voice. Without compromising his the
> > identity. > >Also Ars Inquisitor Daniel C. Caldwell showed not to 
be
> > capable to address ANY of the issuis brought up by B.A.G. 
Meaning one
> > must conclude Daniel C. Caldwell must really know he is defending 
a
> > cococted fake in case of The Mahatma letters. In any case since
> > B.A.G .has come forward and identified himself, I have placed 
two of
> > his letters On-line:
> > > >
> > > > 
http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~muehleb9/lettersed.html
> > > >
> > > > 
http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~muehleb9/resp.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >