Theos-Talk Archives (November 2002 Message tt00354)

Hi Bart an all of you,


Bart wrote:
"You can take people from
> the so-called "races" all over the world, but if they're born in
> America, they're Americans. And the fact that the United States affords
> a place unique in the world where people from the various geographical
> cultures to mix freely, that is why I believe that the Theosophical
> Society was founded in the United States."

My Sufilight answer:
Mix freely ?
Well, what about the black guys in jail, which clearly outnumber the WHITE
ones ?
Who are mixing who on that issue ?
What is freedom, when it is not social ?

What about the Afghan "muslims" at Cuba ???
A sweet joke: I know a friend called Bart: www.thesimpsons.com

USA stinks !
Try for instance the Netherlands or "the natives" in the Amazon Jungle - or
another place instead.


from
M. Sufilight with a sort of a perspective...



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bart Lidofsky" <bartl@sprynet.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Status of Indigenous Australians


> Mic Forster wrote:
> > The general trend is that as a race Indigenous
> > Australians are doing relatively well, although their
> > equal status with other non-Indigenous status is far
> > from assured. Now the questions remains: if Aboriginal
> > Australians were meant to naturally die out why are
> > they still prospering today? One could reply that they
> > have indeed died out and those Indigenous Australians
> > that we see today aren't Aboriginal Australians in the
> > sense that they have maintained their bloodlines and
> > culture without any corruption. There is not one
> > Indigenous Australian today who could claim that they
> > do everything exactly as it was done in 1788. And in
> > this sense, Aboriginal Australians have been lost to
> > antiquity.
>
> In terms of reincarnation, bloodlines are irrelevant. Culture is far
> more important. So I would say that, in terms of dying out, we are
> referring more to the last part of the sentence.
>
> Let us take a look at reincarnation, in the Theosophical sense. The
> reincarnating principle (confusingly but more easily referred to as a
> "monad") is attracted to physical bodies that have the highest chance of
> moving it forward in an evolutionary path. With a stagnated culture that
> has been around for a long time, it becomes a "been there, done that"
> path. But if the culture changes, it no longer is the same culture, and
> therefore becomes a much more fruitful one into which to incarnate.
>
> I am of the belief that, if there is more than one way to interpret
> Theosophical literature, a good indicator of the correct interpretation
> is new scientific discovery. And since the Human Genome Project has
> demonstrated that the genes involved with what is commonly called "race"
> are not only just a small part of the human genome, but also isolated;
> they tend to be unconnected with traits other than superficial ones.
> Therefore, when these races are referred to, at least in the Primary
> Literature, I believe the reference is to cultural differences brought
> on by geographical isolation, not genetic ones. You can take people from
> the so-called "races" all over the world, but if they're born in
> America, they're Americans. And the fact that the United States affords
> a place unique in the world where people from the various geographical
> cultures to mix freely, that is why I believe that the Theosophical
> Society was founded in the United States.
>
> Bart Lidofsky
>
>
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