Theos-Talk Archives (November 2002 Message tt00345)

Hi Brian and all of you,


Brian wrote:
"Brian: That sounds like some specially created wisdom, of someone who
> refuses to study."
My Sufilight answer:
Well, Brian what is it to you to study wisdom ?
Only academics cling to linear-thinking - and believe that to be number ONE
!
The question by Frank could just as well have been does a fart fart if it
exists ?
No, but it smells !!!
(- But allright, my analogy will maybe not be understood by any
anti-theosophists here at theos-talk)

I have one question to all your "%" percentage talk:
Does thoughts KILL ? Are they spiritually tax-free ?


from
M. Sufilight with a bruised heart...and all...


----- Original Message -----
From: "brianmuehlbach" <brianmuehlbach@yahoo.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 9:27 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: THE REAL QUESTION REG. THE CONCOCTION OF THE
MAHATMA LETTERS IS:.


> "Is the acknowlegdement that races do exist already racism?"
> My Sufilight answer: Well, I think , that differs on how fearfull you
are.
>
> Brian: That sounds like some specially created wisdom, of someone who
> refuses to study.
>
> Certainly there are many easy to read books on the subject, plus many
> academic studies, which show what constitutes different forms of racism.
>
> Do racists want to kill or harm other people, in 99.99% of the case,
> never !
>
> Are all 100% nevertheless racist , yes !
>
> Even 99.99% of the Nazi's during WWII would never want to kill any
> Jews, and the 00,01% who did, didn't feel they where "racist" (read
> Eichmans Diary's !) they merely wanted to "help humanity !"
>
> Of course on their terms.
>
> Brian,
again so heretic.
>
> --- In theos-talk@y..., "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
> theosophy@a...> wrote:
> > Hi Frank and all of you,
> >
> > You asked some questions.
> > My Sufilight answers are given in the below.
> >
> >
> > 1. Frank wrote:
> > "Is the acknowlegdement that races do exist already racism?"
> > My Sufilight answer:
> > Well, I think , that differs on how fearfull you are.
> > To some the mere thought on races is quite enough.
> >
> > 2. Frank wrote:
> > "I for myself find no racism when reading the Mahatma Letters."
> > My Sufilight answer:
> > I can't really agree on that when we talk about all the Mahatma
> Letters and
> > when they are read in the mode
> > we call "Dead-letter" reading.
> > (I.e. according to Blavatsky and her use of the '7keys' in for instance
> her
> > book The Secret Doctrine, vol. 1, p.310-325).
> >
> > 3. Frank wrote:
> > "Or is it already racism when the Masters claim to be ahead of us in
> > > evolution?"
> > My Sufilight answer:
> > I havn't heard that view before ! Did I mention that in any of my e-
> mails?
> > I would say that will depend on how these so-called Masters do
> mention their
> > "ahead-ness", or if they are quoted properly and the like. REAL
> Mahatma
> > Masters are not really racists in any ordinary term and use of that
> word.
> >
> > 4. Frank wrote:
> > "Is Nietzsche's Superhuman racism?"
> > My Sufilight answer:
> > I could guess, that some would think so if they read only excerpts of
> his
> > scriptures. And not many read Nietzsche and he didn't promote a
> Theosophical
> > Society - did he ?
> > But you will have to ask people on that. But I think we should let poor
> > Nietzsche get some peace.
> > I think he needs it.
> >
> >
> > 5. Frank wrote:
> > "Or is it racism to believe that all races and all men are EQUAL?
> (Would
> > that
> > > be unjust to inferior or younger races?)"
> > My Sufilight answer:
> > What is this ? You must be joking Frank !
> >
> > 6. Frank wrote:
> > "Is it childism to believe that children are inferior to the adults?"
> > My Sufilgiht answer:
> > Well,... It could be true !
> >
> > 7. Frank wrote:
> > Is it sheepism to believe that sheep are different from wolves?
> > My Sufilight answer:
> > I think the Shepard Christ would know, how to deal with that question !
> > I think you should know them on their fruits !!!
> >
> > That is maybe why one could think that some of the Mahatma Letters
> are
> > either OLD,
> > or publicized by some stupid ignorant careless Theosophists while the
> > Letters weren't for public eyes because of use of "the 7 keys", OR or
> they
> > were tampered with by a person ot two...OR ....?
> > Anyway some of them are OLD compared with a "dead-letter" view.
> > So I hold that at least one has been tampered with.
> >
> > The Mahatma Letters was for certain also created so that - some of -
> the
> > Theosophists would stop their Ideology of "BLIND BELIEF". I hold, that
> THEY
> > are a test for your capabilities to read the - "non-physical-files" or
> > "libraries". The honest and true medtating neophyt or student will
> learn to
> > access these "libraries".
> > Sometimes students access them without knowing, that that is what
> they are
> > doing.
> >
> >
> > So Frank what are your views on the above.
> > And to the readers feel free to do your best...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > from
> > M. Sufilight with small bells transmitting sound in cosmos...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Frank Reitemeyer" <dhyana@w...>
> > To: <theos-talk@y...>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 11:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World THE REAL QUESTION REG. THE
> CONCOCTION OF THE
> > MAHATMA LETTERS IS:.
> >
> >
> > > True, too. But I agree with the Nazarene Master who taught:
> Someone must
> > > bring temptation into the world, but be concerned that it's not you.
> > >
> > > Re the racism slanders: Every normal person knows that's all
> propaganda
> > from
> > > the Jesuits who can't life with an evolutionary sheme.
> > > The more that I never heard from theosophic foes any useful
> definition
> > what
> > > racism is.
> > > Is the acknowlegdement that races do exist already racism?
> > > I for myself find no racism when reading the Mahatma Letters.
> > >
> > > Or is it already racism when the Masters claim to be ahead of us in
> > > evolution?
> > > Is Nietzsche's Superhuman racism?
> > > Or is it racism to believe that all races and all men are EQUAL?
> (Would
> > that
> > > be unjust to inferior or younger races?)
> > > Is it childism to believe that children are inferior to the adults?
> > > Is it sheepism to believe that sheep are different from wolves?
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@a...>
> > > To: <theos-talk@y...>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 8:12 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World THE REAL QUESTION REG. THE
> CONCOCTION OF THE
> > > MAHATMA LETTERS IS:.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Frank and all of you,
> > >
> > > But, let us not remember, that Brian helped bringing up the debate
> on the
> > > dangerous misunderstandings of Theosophical RACISM, which
> a "dead-letter"
> > > reading of the (to some people very important) Mahatma Letters
> > comparatively
> > > easy could establish in a newcomers mind.
> > >
> > > from
> > > M. Sufilight with some... friendly words...and a smile
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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