Theos-Talk Archives (October 2002 Message tt00011)

In a message dated 10/02/02 2:25:22 AM, micforster@yahoo.com writes:

>--- leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> Although, we could say that a cycle or wave of a
>> stock market fluctuation, 
>> does have an "impact" on people's pocketbooks -- and
>> therefore, while flowing 
>> like a wave, it "acts like" a particle... (So, a 90
>> percent drop in the price 
>> of a stock could certainly knock over a big
>> corporation or its stockholders. 
>> :-) But then, that sort of cyclic change is not
>> analogous to, or corresponds 
>> with a cyclic quantum wave -- such as the fixed
>> frequencies of the light 
>> energy spectrum. To compare one with the other is
>> like comparing apples to 
>> oranges, and is a categorical error.
>> 
>> LHM
>> 
>
>So when is a wave not a wave? I accept that it is not
>entirely correct to call fluctuations in a stock
>market a wave, well a quantum wave, but does it not
>have all the other properties of a wave? That is, a
>disturbance propegated through a medium; something
>that carries energy etc etc....
>mic

A quantum wave and a statistical wave are two different things. One is a 
direct attribute of primal energy. The other is not. Cyclic diagrams or 
numbers based on statistical changes in market values have nothing to do with 
the properties of mass/energy or particle/waves. Money, as a "medium" of 
exchange has nothing to do with the "aether" of space as the "medium" of 
light propagation. Are you trying to conflate the intangible, and variably 
jagged waves of stock market fluctuations with the tangible (energetic) and 
fixed sinusoidal waves of light rays or ocean water? If so, you're 
stretching science, and even metaphysics, a bit too far... And, by such 
category errors you might find yourself in a real tailspin when trying to 
understand the true nature of reality... Particularly, the nature of 
consciousness, which theosophical metaphysics is mainly concerned with... 
Since, that's the only aspect of reality that scientific, particle/wave, or 
objective/reductive thinking can't quite get a handle on. (Although, they've 
got the physical end of reality, from the quantum particle on out, pretty 
much in control -- vide; computers, DVD's, cell phones, etc...) Problem is, 
they can't see how the fundamental cycles of energy lead us to the higher or 
inner enfolded dimensions of space (or "planes of consciousness" as theosophy 
would say) which is in the "empty," zero-point space between the particles. 
These inner fields certainly have waves, but do they have "particles"? If 
so, what's a "quanta" of consciousness? (Quanta means; "The smallest amount 
of a physical quantity that can exist independently, especially a discrete 
quantity of electromagnetic radiation.") A photon of physical light is a 
quanta. But, is a *photon* of astral light (or astromagnetic radiation that 
we see with our inner awareness) also a "quanta"? If so, how do we measure 
its frequency, energy or "discrete quantity"? 

Note: (*---*) I would rather call a quanta of astral light an "astron" 
(although it still has photographic characteristics on it own plane of 
consciousness).

LHM