Theos-Talk Archives (July 2002 Message tt00071)

Steve writes:
An interesting and provocative thesis. It should be
said in the interest of fairness and accuracy that a
distinction is made between the larger Jewish
community in that time and the Zionists, who were not
as popular as they are today.
The Zionists served
their own interests by getting in bed with Hitler,
Henry Ford, and other antiSemites, but they clearly
did not serve the interests of the larger Jewish
community, or not in Europe anyway. I found another

Frank answers:
Agreed. This is the same as I understand from both HPB's and Steiner's
arguments on the Jews and their elite. But nevertheless both HPB and Steiner
in the left propaganda are denounced as anti-semites or Nazi supporters.
>From my point of view and knowing the fact that the Zionists and Hitler were
working together to bring the assimilated Jews to Palestine both HPB's and
Steiner's critic on the Jewish elite is in no way anti-semitic, but rather
philo semitic, they tried to protect the Jewish people against those
tempters with their childish and sentimental idea of a wordly Israel and a
worldy Jerusalem.

As we live today in an Orwell world were peace is war and cheap is expensive
and is reform is retreat and truth is lie and democracy is tyranny and
freedom is slavery those who are denounced to be anti-Semits may be in truth
the friends of the Jews.

The Zionists were never that popular, even today, as the overall majority of
the world Jews does not live in Israel. But they had the power to do their
plot as they did because the others were too weak and too blind to see what
would be the results.
Even today many will not see what will be the results of Bush's policy. It
think it will change the face of the USA, too.

Steve writes:
I found another
book offered by amazon which says Ben Gurion and other
leaders tried to cover all this up after the war. I
just got through watching a documentary on CNN about
the Commandant of Unit 101. It does not appear there
were any good guys in this drama, nor were there any
innocents among the leadership class.

Frank answers:
There was an interview with Gurion in the "Look Magazine" of Jan. 16, 1962
"As prophesied by Isaiah" where he demands a world government under the
guide of the Jewish race and with world capital in Jerusalem, built there a
Shrine of the Prophets because Isaiah prophesied it!

>From a theosophical point of view these is clearly nonsense and a dead
letter ideology. Nor are there proofs that the present Khazars who make over
90% of Israel's population are real succeccors of the old Hebrews.
KH once wrote to Sinnett that 2/3 of the world problems appear out of the
dogmatic religions, which are Christianity, Islam and Judaism.

By the way, the aggressive Hamas movement was since years armed by Israel's
Mossad and Arafat is one who represents the liberal Palestines.
When Arafat's policy and telephone system is destroyed that he is not able
anymore to have control over the Trojan horses and at the same time he is
accused to be responsible for the development it's just the old Jewish trick
of steal something, run away and cry: Stop the thief!

The rationale of this satanic policy of Bush and Sharon (BBC: "The slaughter
of Lebanon" in 1982) is to be found in Samuel Huntington's "Clash of
Civilizations" the direct counter program of the TS.
I wonder why no TS has anything to say on this? Do they have fear? Are they
frightened by someone? It is beem said that the TS Pasadena suffered from
FBI investigation some years ago.

It also appears that people sudeenly die. A friend of mine who studied this
background powers and was also listener in my previous theosophical group
was found by his wife in the cellar, hanged with his belt, although he had
much fun and was in his 40's. Surprisingly, the ceiling of the cellar was
only some centimeters higher as his head.

But I think that for a theosophist there is no reason to cloth mouth, even
if one is threatened with assassination.
Frank