Theos-Talk Archives (June 2002 Message tt00194)

Bart, the co-operation was of early of 1933, the year of Hitler's
empowerment.

When behind closed doors the Haavara agreement was signed by the Jews and
Hitler for the public eyes there was a big fight (reminds me on the cold
war! really so cold?)
In USA Henry Ford was drumming (since the early 1920's) against the Jews (to
make them ready to leave for the Holy land? Surprisingly this notorious
anti-semite was rewarded by the Bnai Brith Lodge in London in 1942 (or 44,
writing from memory, but before end of the war) with a nice medal. Why? For
what?
Some weeks after Hitler empowerment the New York Jewish pressure groups
started mass campaigns in Central Park and called for boycott of the German
goods. Hitler in turn ordered to boycott the Jewish shops in Germany.
The Jews of the world declared in the world press War to Germany. Hitler in
turn began persecution.
Could it be that BOTH SIDES followed A SINGLE PLAN?

It was later (after the Olympic Games in 1936 in Berlin - 1940 should have
been the next Games again in Berlin after Japan stepped down), around 1937
(writing from memory) when the Nazi settlements in Palestine were stopped by
the British (Churchill spoke the same about the Jews as Hitler and also from
the early 1920's).
British ships blocked the SS steamers and so the Palestine project came to
an end.
Next Hitler brought the Madagaskar plan to Paris, London and Washington, but
the Jewish World Congress (or its forerunner) did not want it
(understandable from their point of view).
Next Hitler planned to found an extra Jewish republic in the Soviet Union
and built for that plan big concentration camps
(I limit myself to this early motive regardless what later have or have not
happened with this camps).
It was during that period that no country was willing to take the Jews, even
Roosevelt's USA ordered his marine to stop the SS steamers far away from the
east cost.

BTW, Nicosia quotes from an Jewish Irgun Zwai Le'umi offer of Jan. 11, 1941
(!) to the German goverment to continue co-operation...

That the Pius case is today called a compromise is understandable. Who of
today wants to be regarded as the best buddy of Hitler? I think that all
powers were eager to get as much for themselves and had Hitler won the war I
am quite sure they would not call it a compromise. In fact, the co-operation
with the Vatican was very close and in no way only a compromise.
It may have turned later on. From 1937 on the Nazi press made big campaign
against the Jesuits - this may indicate that there were problems arising.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bart Lidofsky" <bartl@sprynet.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World The Haavara incident


stevestubbs wrote:
>
> Wiesenthal, who presumably is not a Nazi, says the story is true.
> The Zionists (who did not represent all Jews in 1933 by any means)
> saw the world boycott against German goods which was motivated by
> German persecution of Jews, as an opportunity to promote their own
> interests by importing German goods into Palestine, and to that end
> they cut a deal with Hitler's government.

Remember that, at the time, no country was accepting Jews fleeing from
Germany. I put the agreement on the same order as Pope Pius' compromises
with Germany.

Bart Lidofsky



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