Theos-Talk Archives (May 2002 Message tt00158)

May 14, 2002

Dear Friends:

Re: "God"


If we personalize this concept we dwarf it.

If we perceive that the DIVINE PRINCIPLE is universal, we admit that
it is everything and cannot be separate from or different from
anything in Nature (the Universe.) We as well as everything else are
included. God is within each of us, as well as in all else.

How then will we, as immortal spiritual beings, treat other immortal
spiritual beings ?

It is quite fruitless to discuss individual views about "God." They
are the result of self-limited ideas and premises. If we examine such
premises, we soon discover where the restriction arises.

If we use the BIBLE, then we soon realize by going to its SOURCES,
that the translations which we so commonly use, are very poor
renditions of the original teachings of the Jews and the Kabalists --
therefore =e to use our present BIBLE as a basis is only productive of
a continuing error. Once we eliminate that, then discussion becomes
agreement on principles of universality and of co-existence. Everyone
is found to be :right" once we go back to SOURCES. And that is what
Theosophy seeks to demonstrate.

If we were to limit our concepts to "Manifestation," we might envisage
a UNIVERSAL BEING -- a "Spiritual Entity" -- whatever that might be.
But there is the problem of Non-manifestation.

Surely "God" is there also -- in which case, we may think of "God"
immanent (omnipresent) in manifestation, but we are forced by logic to
conclude that Non-manifestation demands that "God" be immortal and
transcendent. Such a God as DIVINITY or SPIRITUAL EXCELLENCE can
never "die" or be eliminated.

It (HE) is present in each of us, as also in every 'atom" and in
everything else. If we debate, we are only arguing for or against
OURSELVES.

This eliminates debate. All debates concern limitations. DEITY is
timeless and unlimited. IT IS.

If "God" is unlimited and permanent, then a philosophy based on its
ALL-PRESENCE, and EVER-BEING has to be Theosophy. It is also
ALL-KNOWING. (Omnipresence, omnipotence, and omniscience.)

Theosophy is NOT a religion, it does not debate improbabilities or
impossibilities, but confines itself to self-evident facts, and to
immutable and fair logic. It is a description of things as they are,
and of ideas as rooted, or emanating from IDEALS. It therefore
includes all debates and resolves those through a system of fair
examination that any one can use.

It is an expression made by Those who have mastered the ultimate
concepts and facts of the deific manifestation as well as the
non-manifestation, yet the ever-continuance of purposive SPIRITUAL
BEING.

Best wishes,

Dallas



Best wishes,

Dallas

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry F Kolts
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:51 AM
To:
Subject: RE: God

Dear Christina,

Some notes following your comments:

> I ask, what makes anybody think that "God" has any of the
personality
> traits of any human, first of all...

I think this comes from the way the Bible reads. God gets angry. He
repents. He calls himself a jealous god. All very human. Easy to be
led
astray.
>
> And secondly, what makes any of what the church believes the "final
> word"?

Because that's what they're taught. Catholics in particular have
traditionaly been taught not to question authority. they believe that
when the Pope speaks "ex cathedra" (from the bishops chair) his word
is the very word of god as he is the "vicar of Christ." hard to get
them to see otherwise.

CUT