Theos-Talk Archives (May 2002 Message tt00159)

May 14 02

Dear M

"Selfish" means the present personal lower-manasic self, wrapped in
desires and therefore self-limited by a sense of Egotism that dies at
the death of this body.

Do you want to consider the nature of our consciousness before birth
and after death ?

If one desires to transcend the limited view of a one life existence,
the concept that we are at core SPIRITUAL IMMORTALS is significant.
Time is no longer a constraint.

To you it may be "speculative" but while debatable, if one goes back
to FIRST CONCEPTS it is reasonable.

It has to do with the CAUSE AND BASIS of the Universe as a MANIFESTED
entity in all its immense diversity, and the "position: we actually
occupy in it.

Best wishes,

Dallas

-----Original Message-----
From: Mauri
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:59 AM
To:
Subject: re "selfish bliss" re Dallas's wording/meaning . . .?

Hi Dallas,

Re your: <<Briefly, the idea of attaining liberation is a selfish one.
We
want the bliss and isolation from sorrow as a personal one. >>

I think I'm getting an idea where you might be getting the kind of
wording (re "selfish bliss") that I was referring to in my yesterday's
post. In your May 7 post you had this quote:

<<NIRMANAKAYA (Sk.) Occultism...says: that Nirmanakaya,
although meaning literally a transformed "body;" is a state. The form
is that of an adept or yogi who enters, or chooses that post mortem
condition in preference to the Dharmakaya or absolute Nirvanic state.
He does this because the latter kaya separates him for ever from the
world of form, conferring upon him a state of selfish bliss, in which
no
other living being can participate, the adept being thus precluded
from
the possibility of helping humanity, or even devas.>>

I suspect that the wording there re "selfish bliss" was meant to be
interpreted a certain way . . .

Speculatively,
Mauri