Bailey and Denmark
Feb 08, 2002 11:20 AM
Thanks for sharing something of your national situation with us.
About 5 years ago there was a lot of talk on theos-l about the
explusion of the Danish section of the Adyar TS, allegedly (like that
of the Canadians) because they'd been infiltrated by the Bailey
heresy and Radha couldn't tolerate it. Not because there is an
inherent conflict between the TS and the Bailey work, but because ut
conflicts with the *ES* whose power is threatened if a different kind
of esoteric inner group is recruiting within/undermining the
Society. But in the absence of detailed official explanations of
what happened and why, this remained rumor. Does it fit your
knowledge of the scene?
I looked up for you in the Encyclopedia of American Religions all the
Baileyite groups, but this is the first edition of 1978 and there
might be more now: Arcane School, School of Esoteric Studies,
Meditation Group of the New Age, Arcana Workshops, Aquarian
Educational Group, School of Light and Realization (SOLAR). These
names ought to give you a starting point; google.com is the most
comprehensive search engine.
--- In theos-talk@y..., "Morten Sufilight" <teosophy@m...> wrote:
> Hi Paul and al of you,
> Here are som of my views:
> Very interesting - and I will say that at least some parts of ULT -
also according to my view has some problems with the
word "fundamentalism", but I am not a real physical insider, so to
> I would like to know, what views you have on the Alice A. Bailey
groups, where there are several different groupings ?? (Maybe just
the major ones.)
> Some comments and views:
> You know I am from Denmark - (Scandinavia). I can tell you, that
there for sure are - Alice A. Bailey fanatism in Denmark .
> But it is also important to know, that about 33% of the Danish
adult population at least one time in their life - tries alternative
treatments of New Age like kind. We have a sort of New Age wave in
Denmark at present.
> The population in Denmark are very political active, .- and at
elections to parliment - more than 80% votes.
> And the danish TV-channels and newspapers has made Islam and the
Middle East look bad. And because of that the politicians are careful
about their statements on issues concerned.
> Racial tendencies and Christianity plays an awfull important role
in the Danish populations lifestyles, - maybe that is why Alice A.
Bailey is so IN - in Denmark - who knows ? (Am I too rough putting
that forward ?)
> The following view are common in Denmark and certainly also plays a
part. The view are: "Old books (like The Secret Doctrine) are NOT
interesting. We want new books, - and USA with Hollywood are great
and the like !"
> But that is Denmark. Sweden are different !
> Sufilight with thoughts...etc.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kpauljohnson" <kpauljohnson@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@y...>
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:15 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Adyar yes, ULT no, Pasadena both
> > --- In theos-talk@y..., Drpsionic@a... wrote:
> > >
> > > There is a huge difference between the way theosophists act in
> > life and
> > > the way they behave online. And if one is around them long
> > one learns
> > > to find a sort of gentle cynicism towards the founders, a kind
> > reverence
> > > tempered with "well, the old girl sure got that one wrong,"
> > thing.
> > > They are anything but fundamentalists.
> > >
> > Chuck, we've met several times in Wheaton and I'd certainly agree
> > with you about the attitude within the American Section. All the
> > lodges I've visited and *almost* all the individuals I've met
> > been undogmatic, friendly, interested in alternative ways of
> > at HPB, and so on. And while I think both John Algeo and Radha
> > Burnier decided for reasons of their own (the authority of the ES
> > its claims to represent the Masters, perhaps) to make me a
> > Theosophical nonperson in the wake of my SUNY books, I don't
> > either of them is a fundamentalist. Ditto for Daniel; he's been
> > serving the fundie agenda and networking with fundie Theosophists
> > in his heart of hearts I don't think he really is one. From my
> > considerable experience with the Pasadena TS, I'd say it's more
> > conservative than Adyar generally, and that there are some
> > fundamentalists, but not overtly so in any aggressive way (except
> > Pratt so far.) But my experience with ULT suggests that there is
> > substantial core of fundamentalists within it who are aggressive
> > towards fellow Theosophists who are not of their persuasion.
> > been involved in intraTheosophical events several times, in
> > VA, NY, and out West. The only people who have regularly been
> > preachy and mean to their fellow Theosophists over doctrinal
> > have been the ULT folks. I've seen roomsful of happy loose Adyar
> > folks turned tense and uncomfortable by ULT antics at such joint
> > events, in several states and over several years.
> > That's just a small sample, but I think you should restrict your
> > description to the Adyar TS.
> > Paul
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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