Theos-Talk Archives (December 2001 Message tt00394)

Alright Sufilight. neti neti.

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> From: Morten Sufilight <teosophy@mail1.stofanet.dk>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re to Paul
> Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:00 AM
> 
> Hi Bill, and all of you,
> 
> Allright Bill. 
> I didn't say, that you didn't see what you claimed you saw.
> I didn't say, that your post wasn't about Jesus.
> I didn't say, that you had said that Christ was a joke.
> I didn't say, that Maya can make things and events look real - even if
they really are not.
> 
> Can you agree upon that?
> 
> To me Christ isn't a joke.
> 
> 
> from Sufilight
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Meredith" <bilmer@surfsouth.com>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re to Paul
> 
> 
> > My post was about an event of which I am a credible witness. The story
is
> > true to the best of my recollection. My post was not about Christ. 
Did I
> > say anywhere that Christ was a joke? See how easily one's
prejudgements
> > dance upon the scene?
> > 
> > Bill
> > ----------
> > > From: Morten Sufilight <teosophy@mail1.stofanet.dk>
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Re to Paul
> > > Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:39 PM
> > > 
> > > Hi Bill,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Laughs...
> > > 
> > > Well - do - I think? Do - I - think?
> > > 
> > > What do you want?
> > > Have you found anything wet - to be historical examined?
> > > 
> > > Christ is no joke - so please....Bill....
> > > 
> > > 
> > > from Sufilight
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Bill Meredith" <bilmer@surfsouth.com>
> > > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Re to Paul
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > What Jerry writes below reminds me of my first philosophy professor
> > many
> > > > years ago. In a large southern university smack in the middle of
> > southern
> > > > baptist country, Dr. W tossed out for consideration the question of
> > whether
> > > > Jesus ever had sex, or masterbated, or had a wet dream, or awakened
> > with an
> > > > erection. Dr. W never said these things were true, but the roar of
> > young
> > > > christian students defending the 'son of man' was deafening.
> > > > 
> > > > I wonder what Sufilight thinks of this story?
> > > > 
> > > > Bill
> > > > 
> > > > ----------
> > > > > From: Morten Sufilight <teosophy@mail1.stofanet.dk>
> > > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Re to Paul
> > > > > Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:31 PM
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Jerry, and you all,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jeery wrote:
> > > > > And why do some get so upset over the idea that Blavatsky may
have
> > used
> > > > drugs? Does this picture knock her off her pedestal? How? I suspect
> > that we
> > > > all can agree that she cussed and smoked and traveled cross-country
> > with
> > > > men, so her pedestal has to be somewhat tarnished anyway. This
whole
> > > > business may suggest more for her followers than for Blavatsky
herself.
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > *******
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well Jerry - one wonders why?? What do you your self think - it
could
> > be,
> > > > that makes people so upset?
> > > > > Please Jerry - you who are so wise - please help us out here - on
> > this ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > (And please - to all readers - I am not against a good story. But
if
> > it
> > > > is bad, then the owen gets hot.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > from
> > > > > Sufilight
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "Gerald Schueler" <gschueler@earthlink.net>
> > > > > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:20 PM
> > > > > Subject: Theos-World Re to Paul
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > <<<Spirituality that is not in conflict with clear awareness of
> > history
> > > > and all it reveals about human weakness and delusion. 
> > > > > > Paul>>>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I agree with you, Paul. I have enjoyed most of the historical
> > debates,
> > > > even though I don't usually care much for history. I found
Brigitte's
> > > > history of the early TS fascinating. Also, I have enjoyed both of
your
> > > > books.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The problem seems to be that some Theosophists have already
placed
> > > > Blavatsky on a divine pedestal and can't accept the fact that she
was
> > human
> > > > like everybody else. Also, while some Theosophists preach
compassion,
> > they
> > > > really aren't much different from book-burning fundamentalist
> > Christians.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hopefully a dispassionate history debate can continue. And why
do
> > some
> > > > get so upset over the idea that Blavatsky may have used drugs? Does
> > this
> > > > picture knock her off her pedestal? How? I suspect that we all can
> > agree
> > > > that she cussed and smoked and traveled cross-country with men, so
her
> > > > pedestal has to be somewhat tarnished anyway. This whole business
may
> > > > suggest more for her followers than for Blavatsky herself. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I think Brigitte may be on to something when she suggests that
male
> > > > chauvinism may have played a part in her Masters. Why shouldn't we
> > discuss
> > > > these kind of possibilities?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jerry S.
> > > > > > 
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