Theos-Talk Archives (December 2001 Message tt00375)

kpauljohnson wrote:
> My first reaction was to think of Frank and nos's anti-Semitic and
> anti-American rants. But those have actually diminished of late.
> When I looked through the last hundred posts to see activity levels,
> I found the top posters were Brigitte with 22 posts, Daniel with 18,
> Dallas with 13, Steve with 7, Frank with 6, Peter and Nos with 5
> each, everyone else with 3 or fewer. Now, of these 7, who are
> engaging in hate speech? 

Brigitte, Frank, Daniel, probably Nos (I have killfiled him, so can't
tell for sure) mainly.

> Dogmatic fundamentalist Theosophists will consider Brigitte to be
> hateful simply because she challenges their beliefs, which they
> consider "bothering" them. 

Bullshit. She is hateful, plain and simple. She comes by it honestly
(from the hatefulness of Alice Bailey), but that doesn't justify it. Her
moral equivalence falls apart when you realize that pushing an old lady
out of the path of a bus IS morally different than pushing an old lady
into the path of a bus, even though both actions involve pushing an old
lady.

> denunciations of unnamed people who are ruining the list. My answer
> to this: "Light a candle, or curse the darkness?" Brigitte and Steve
> and Daniel are doing *absolutely nothing* to interfere with y'all's
> ability to talk about *what* you want, *how* you want, and *when* you
> want. 

I don't want to step into their trap. They have piles of shoddy logic,
falsified history, and plain out and out lies to fall back on, and what
they want is for people to argue with them so that they can pull out
their full loads of ammo. And, if somebody does get the better of them,
they simply ignore that person, and start all over again. How many times
have you tried to go against Daniel, when all the ammunition you have in
your arsenal is the truth? And what good has it done? 

You know full well that it is easy to take statements out of context to
change their meanings, or even take a statement in context which is
contradicted by many other statements, yet ignore those other
statements. Yes, one can take apart the arguments. But my life is too
short to waste it dealing with hatemongers. I'd just as soon walk away.
Which I have pretty much decided to do. And you know what kind of abuse
I am capable of standing up to if I think that my efforts have a prayer
of doing some good. 

Bart Lidofsky