RE: Theos-World Re: Vision, Thought and Intuition
Nov 28, 2001 05:32 PM
Fortunately THEOSOPHY dos not rise or fall with the aspersions
and doubts and skepticism hurled by irresponsible and
non-students at H P B.
For knowledge to exist there have to be KNOWERS.
I find it very distressing to see so much time wasted on
superficial matters, when it could be spent on trying to find out
if THEOSOPHY is correct or incorrect.
When THEOSOPHY becomes a matter for study and discussion then
there will be something valuable to say. I have yet to see a
point by point critique of THEOSOPHY.
Why are criticism directed people who are no longer here to
explain or to defend themselves ? Is it safe to do that ? But
how about attacking and destroying (if possible) the PHILOSOPHY
and the DOCTRINES of Theosophy.
I think that is a fair challenge.
That is my opinion.
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Subject: Theos-World Re: Vision, Thought and Intuition
I submit that it is unwise to approach the truth or falsity of a
proposition (or the value of a line of inquiry) with one's
concern being to avoid accepting any proposition/inquiry that
have negative *implications* for our belief system. That is a
to nowhere. "If HPB's statements about the Masters weren't all
then her statements on other things might not be all true-- and
can't have that, can we? Our primary objective is to maintain
position that everything HPB said was true, and if we start
the wrong questions, delving into the wrong sources, then we
led astray into doubt." The problem for a Theosophist who takes
approach is that it flies in the face of everything the
movement is supposed to stand for. You wrote:
--- In theos-talk@y..., Alan Williams <alwilli@i...> wrote:
> Quite so, Bart. But upon rejecting them,
What does it mean to "reject them?" To reject the claim that
everything HPB said about them was true? To *accept* such an
unproven claim is in violation of the spirit of inquiry that the
was supposedly founded to foster.
whoever they might be, brings
> into question everything else HBP wrote concerning the
> preservation of the secret doctrine.
And what is wrong with those things being in question?
the Bible, Quran, Hindu scriptures, etc. is "in question"
historically, but that doesn't destroy Christianity, Islam and
So shes either telling the truth
> or a great lie.
That in itself is the BIG LIE-- that it's either all true or all
false. Anyone who investigates with an open mind will find a
of truth and fiction. "S/he's either telling the truth or a
lie" could also be applied to any other spiritual teacher in
history. And it would be wrong in every case.
> When the keystone is removed the arch collapses.
And is the keystone of universal theosophia the specific claims
one particular 19th century author? Could the keystone of
*possibly* be the truth of one particular person's assertions?
arch collapses if we start to doubt that everything HPB said
Masters was true? Weren't HPB and Olcott pretty explicit that
an approach was anathema in the TS?
> of the feet, the statue collapses, doubt the masters, doubt
> Theosopy... and so on.
As if to say "doubt is bad, avoid it at all costs?" What you
doubt, I call intellectual freedom and inquiry, and it is of the
essence of what the modern Theosophical movement claims to embody
encourage. (Hypocritically so, if most adherents take the
that your words appear to encourage.) What you might call
from doubt" I would call intellectual death.
> Best regards,
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