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RE: The cause of the whole manvantara

Nov 13, 2001 04:51 PM
by Gerald Schueler

I don't believe that is quite accurate. Surely it is the notion that there is a *SEPARATE* self that is the core of our own particular human Maya and suffering.>>>

Peter, I want you to seriously think about this a moment, and then please tell me what a non-separate self is, or what or a non-individual individuality is. What exactly is your definition of such a thing? How can you and I be merged together and still somehow retain any distinction between you and I? 

<<<The idea that our ignorance is the one thing that keeps "the whole manvantara" going seems somewhat exoteric and superficial, if not simply grandiose. Will the entire Manvantara and all the future Manvantaras, the periodical and regular manifestations of the One Self Existing Reality (ie Parabrahm) all come to an end when we truly realise we are not separate from one another?>>>

OK. I am refering here to ignorance in the sense of arigpa (Sanskrit for the opposite of rigpa - awareness of Truth) kind of like an inherent ignorance of our true nature. This is said to be the only essential difference between a Buddha and an ordinary human being. When someone is able to dispel this ignorance, then this manvantara is indeed over - for them (or so I have heard).

<<<Maybe the KOSMOS with its cycles of rest and activity, the periodical playground of numberless Universes, is much much grander and far more meaningful than the pitiful stage of selfishness and separateness that our current humanity is going through.

Perhaps, although I am not at all sure what you mean. Our entire manvantaric expression on the 7 cosmic planes seems to be one of separation and of having and trying to secure a self, but I probably wouldn't call it "pitiful" although it is for some. Blavatsky says that on the scale of a human life, humanity is presently an adolescent, which seems about right to me.

Jerry S.

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