Theos-Talk Archives (October 2001 Message tt00347)

Have you read terrence mckenna's work with book of changes ? He melds
the I ching , fractal geomtery and the mayan calender into a riveting
thought provoking look at the eschaton human consciousness and
psychaedlics in his books:

The Archaic Revival and Trialogues at the Edge of the West (with
Sheldrake and ralph abraham)

For those not acqauinted with The Way...

http://www.chinapage.com/gnl.html


And Daniel - welcome to the Group I don't believe you've posted before?
I may be wrong of course - if so I can't apologize as in Australia we
are not allowed to - by law - John Howard said so ;)



|-----Original Message-----
|From: DANIEL J HOUGAS [mailto:younggung36@msn.com] 
|Sent: Monday, 22 October 2001 2:04 PM
|To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
|Subject: Re: Theos-World wake up to it and enjoy (including 
|"spiritual")life
|
|
|Come on, I'm talking about Loa Tzu and Chang Tzu. You know 
|what I mean? 
| 
|----- Original Message -----
|From: nos
|Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 10:32 PM
|To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
|Subject: RE: Theos-World wake up to it and enjoy (including 
|"spiritual")life
| 
|Toa or tao?
|
|As in - Man, I'm giving up - I'm throwing in the tao?
|
|
|;)
|
|No...s
|
|
||-----Original Message-----
||From: DANIEL J HOUGAS [mailto:younggung36@msn.com]
||Sent: Monday, 22 October 2001 1:50 PM
||To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
||Subject: Re: Theos-World wake up to it and enjoy (including 
||"spiritual")life
||
||
||Does anybody want to talk about the toa?
||
||----- Original Message -----
||From: DANIEL J HOUGAS
||Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 10:17 PM
||To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
||Subject: Re: Theos-World wake up to it and enjoy (including 
||"spiritual")life
||
||It's not the barefoot thing is it?
||
||----- Original Message -----
||From: nos
||Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 9:48 PM
||To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
||Subject: RE: Theos-World wake up to it and enjoy (including 
||"spiritual")life
||
||My old uncle who is a bit of mysoginist still has this embroidery on 
||his
||wall:
||
||MAN KNOW THYSELF
||
||WOMAN KNOW THY PLACE
||
||
||- now I know that's not very pc - but it's hell funny
||
||
||
||Namaste
||
||
||Naughty old stirrer
||
||
||
|||-----Original Message-----
|||From: DANIEL J HOUGAS [mailto:younggung36@msn.com]
|||Sent: Monday, 22 October 2001 3:43 AM
|||To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
|||Subject: Re: Theos-World wake up to it and enjoy (including 
|||"spiritual")life
|||
|||
|||Bridgett, the highest thing you can ever do is to know
||thyself, don't
|||you agree.
|||
|||----- Original Message -----
|||From: bri_mue@yahoo.com
|||Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 12:09 PM
|||To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
|||Subject: Theos-World wake up to it and enjoy (including 
|||"spiritual")life
|||
|||Jerry: "Another way to put it might be that a mystical
||experience is in
|||the form of new and deeper states of consciousness, even though the 
|||senses and outward experience of things may still be physical plane 
|||earth. A psychical experience is in the form of altered or different 
|||sense experiences, perhaps of subtler aspects of physical or astral 
|||earth. With the psychical, we see different things and may 
|go to other 
|||places, but our basic consciousness is the same. It's the same "us" 
|||that is going there and seeing those things. With the 
|mystical, we may 
|||still be here and seeing the same things, but we're greater within, 
|||with a wider scope of understanding, with perhaps entirely 
|new ways of 
|||appreciating life in our wider consciousness."
|||
|||Maybe we don't "go" anywhere.
|||
|||Jerry: "can know the taste of an apple by reading about it. 
|And also, 
|||they admit to being afraid to eat it"
|||
|||It reminds me a bit of primitive tribes that live in the midst of a 
|||beautiful forest/nature, but are afraid to walk in it at
||night because
|||of the "gosts" out there. They demonize the world, not
||realizing that
|||if there are "gosts",or spiritual beings, out there they
||couldn't harm
|||one if you are present minded.
|||
|||Jerry: "We experience materiality directly, and we experience dreams 
|||directly, and so how does one know that direct spiritual
||experience is
|||any more reliable? " One is good for this, and the other is good for 
|||other aspects of life, and yes they are both limited on a
||"real" life
|||basis it seems. But at least are to be considered as "normal" in our 
|||current condition. Nevertheless the physical (or the lower 
|Manas seems 
|||a more accurate thesophical term) seems more familiar to many 
|||theosophists then spiritual "experiences"(and of course 
|there is also 
|||discussion of what is "spiritual"), wich some demonize, and 
|that is a 
|||dead end street. Just as you breath air, drink water (any long term 
|||breatharians on the list ?), and eat at least some, food, applying 
|||"experience" exploring consciousness and self .helps one to 
|be a more 
|||balanced person it seems, plus adding a good dose of scepticism and 
|||trying to check things out helps a lot . In other words to stay with
|||your two feet on the ground seems an advisable way to go as
|||long one has a body.
|||
|||Only reading books, of watever creed is indeed a
||limitation, and can
|||get you confused or stuck. Creed can also mean scientific creed of 
|||course, but also in science, there is a lot of good research
||going on
|||that can be looked up and can be made to be useful.
|||
|||We live in a great world/universe, why not wake up to it and
||enjoy it.
||| Brigitte
|||
|||
|||
|||
|||
|||
|||Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
|||http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
|||
|||
|||[Non-text portions of this
|||message have been removed]
|||
|||
|||
|||
|||Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
|||http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
|||
|||
|||
||
||
||
||
||Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
||http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
||
||
||[Non-text portions of this
||message have been removed]
||
||
||
||
||Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
||http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
||
||
||[Non-text portions of this
||message have been removed]
||
||
||
||
||Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
||http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
||
||
|
|
|
|
|Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
|http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
|
|
|[Non-text portions of this 
|message have been removed]
|
|
| 
|
|Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
|http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
|
|
|