Theos-Talk Archives (October 2001 Message tt00346)

Hi DTB - comments as usual inserted betwixt... 

|-----Original Message-----
|From: dalval14@earthlink.net [mailto:dalval14@earthlink.net] 
|Sent: Monday, 22 October 2001 5:56 AM
|To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
|Subject: RE: Theos-World RE: The Mahatma letters.
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|Sunday, October 21, 2001
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|Dear Nos:
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|I guess I am too serious -- but Theosophy is an important tool 
|for me, and I always hope to engage others who have studied it 
|in a dialog that enlightens us both.

Enlighten - to lighten up? Geddit?

|"Glommel" sound gloppy to me. Messy sticky stuff -- how to 
|escape from it?

See now we're getting somewhere...

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|But I think that my view of the Universe and of Mankind is 
|that they are (in some ways) mirror aspects of one-another. 
|Analogies but not exact correspondences. A kind of 
|individualism in a universe elastic enough to permit personal 
|latitudes. Hence no straight jackets to be issued, but, to 
|the extent that any one wanders from the "straight and narrow" 
|of sensitive and cooperative life, so will the reaction be 
|form Nature, in an impersonal way on the deviant. I see that 
|this is called Karma by the old Hindus and perhaps they have a point.

My interpretation is that - and to give an anaology here - we as the
individual 'ego' that seems to instruct and make decisions for the field
that seems tobe a body differnetiated from other bodies on the physical
plane - are in fact a HOST - of smaller bodies whose will has been bent
to that of the 'ego' and that also in this way that each of us
indivudually is like unto that host and that a greater willin fact
controls us all - what passes for indivualism is a differentiation on
that lower plane of will. Does that even make close to sense?
So I'm the boss of my blodd cells and dna etc - then say to our sun -
SOL - OM - ON - RA etc the planets are like his dna -his light is like
an akasic blood - the planets then are a higer rank than us etc - but we
as man are the experiencing conscious of the universe that is - we as
man exist for the purpose of the universe in existing - that's not to
say that a species of being on a planet in a system lioght years a way
is not also that same expression.. Speed of light is a certain number
for a reason - there';s a geometric proof somewhere - if I can find
it... Gee I'm getting way from the point here..

|[Man the microcosmic Monad, mirrors the potentialities of the 
|UNIVERSAL MONAD -- which may mean nothing to you unless you 
|are familiar with theosohial terminology and meanings -- the 
|Monad is said to consist of polar opposites: 1. SPIRIT 
|(Perfection in all things) and 2. PRIMORDIAL MATTER (or 
|perfection in terms of limits and substance].

Dal - at this point let me say this. I've been on this list for like 4
years - You have corresponded with me persoanlly before - we have had
many online discussions - surely youmust know thenthat I was pulling
your chain with the Aldous Huxley/Hobbit stuff. Of course I've read SD,
vols 1,2,3 - Isis, key to theopshy, esoteric budhism, the gita, the
bardo thodrol, the emerald tablet, the archidoxes of magik, keys to
kabbalah by bain, etc etc etc do I need to go on...

| There is a duality in all things, one is constructive (if you 
|will allow the parameters to remain lose) and the other is 
|destructive. One leads to a future and the other to 
|annihilation of all life or effort. The first leads to a 
|recognition of Karma (the law of cause and effect, justly and 
|fairly administered) and of Reincarnation (the use of the 
|immortal SPIRIT/SOUL of many bodies -- so that the "learning 
|process is continued") The second is full of suspicion and 
|doubts and sees only the chaotic side of a life of luck, 
|chance and uncertainty. It therefore evolves in its 
|consciousness no ability to perceive harmony among discords 
|and dynamism with a purpose inherent in it.

Shiva-Shakti-Vishnu - you left one out - sustainer, creator, destroyer.

Nothing leads to annihilation of alllife and effort - you are adding
human attributes to these primeval forces. The universe is destroyed and
created endlessly - the cycle, the cycle, nothing but the cycle (unless
you breakit of course)


|Personally I "like" the building side, as the future (in which 
|I hope to be engaged) intrigues me. The concept of being 
|abolished is not evocative of any "fear," but appears to me to 
|be a rather dreary and self-limiting drag. It does not really 
|in terms even of pessimism appear to get anywhere. Strangely 
|it finds itself impelled to draw others into its intellectual 
|circle, but never fully analyses anything from start to finish.

Like is an a attchment a desire - give it up - is that Hinayana?

|Yes I enjoyed the stories of Tolkien also.

I prefer Stephen Donaldsons Thomas Covenant Trilogy (Donaldson grew up
in India - compelling if you haven't read it)

Have you ever read any Phillip K Dick?



|Best wishes,
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|Dallas
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Cheers from down under

Mr Nos