Theos-Talk Archives (September 2001 Message tt00252)

What are you trying to say, drugs has anything to do with spiritual
advancement?! If spiritual advancement would have been dependent on
chemicals, it wasn't worthy the efforts. Etzion
----- Original Message -----
From: nos <nos@granite.net.au>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: Theos-World Re: Secret Doctrine - Destroyed And Then Created
Again?


> I'm sure with years of meditation we could all achieve what a single
> good sized dose of LSD or ayahuasca or any of the shamanic drugs
> (SOMA!!!!) does in one day.
>
> Ego destroyed
> At one with you
> With we 1 becomes 2 becomes 3
> Polarity dispelled
> In an infinite moment
> Sacred soma return me to thy river
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IronGround@aol.com [mailto:IronGround@aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001 7:39 AM
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Secret Doctrine - Destroyed And Then
> Created Again?
>
>
> >:-) I like that idea - for example, Leadbeater and Besant saying that
> >they
> could see the Elements with magnified clairvoyant sight - both of them
> describing Oxygen as having a dynamic, beautiful,
> double-spiral, geometric
> design - a living Creature who we breathe all the time - g'Day!
> >:-) Grounge
>
> In a message dated 9/23/01 7:15:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> nos@granite.net.au writes:
>
> > http://www.erowid.org/index.shtml
> >
> > All substances are both poisons and tonics - depending on the dose
> >
> > Nos
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IronGround@aol.com [mailto:IronGround@aol.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2001 8:58 AM
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Theos-World Re: Secret Doctrine - Destroyed And Then
> > Created Again?
> >
> >
> > >:-) Hi - I'm not sure if you were asking me that question, but for
> > >myself, I
> > experimented for a short time with some mind-altering drugs
> > about 25 years
> > ago, but for the last 25 years I haven't touched anything like
> > that, not even
> > marihuana.
> >
> > And yes, I would offer a warning to anyone who might consider
> > using that
> > approach. Leadbeater explained it well, saying that external
> > stimuli only
> > affects one from the outside - and so one might be able to
> > generate some
> > sorts of chaotic clairvoyance types of things, but that is only
> > temporary -
> > only affecting your present life - not carrying over to future lives.
> >
> > But if one works from within, by things like meditation, then
> > one's Soul is
> > directly involved in the process, and so any progress one
> makes by that
> > method is a real advance that remains with one throughout all
> > Future Lives -
> > and any types of abilities one develops that way is much more
> > likely to be
> > under one's control, not the chaotic drug type things.
> >
> > Well I believe all that, and that is how I've been living for
> > the last 25
> > years, and I have no intention of changing. During meditation I
> > feel much
> > Deeper than I ever felt back when experimenting with drugs -
> > some of those
> > experiences were intense, but not as Deep as what I feel now.
> >
> > And like I suggested, Astral projection is more exciting than drug
> > experiences anyway! - and since the Astral Plane is between the
> > Physical
> > Plane and Heaven, usually it must be thoroughly explored
> before one can
> > awaken in Heaven. Although, the Astral Plane can also be
> experienced by
> > meditation, so projection isn't necessary. And there might be
> > some dangers to
> > Astral projection, so one might want to consider that before
> > attempting it.
> >
> > I don't know, maybe there are ways of using herbal approaches
> > that are of
> > value - Blavatsky mentions the use of Soma - but I don't think
> > many people
> > today know how to use that method to any benefit, so personally
> > I would warn
> > against it - g'Day! >:-) Grounge
> >
> > In a message dated 9/22/01 10:42:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > dalval14@earthlink.net writes:
> >
> > > I fail to see what reference to Theosophy and its study such
> > messages
> > > have.
> > >
> > > If LSD dulls the mind and its control over the
> personality, as do
> > > all drugs, alcohol included, then why need it be mentioned?
> > Unless as
> > > a warning. I take it this is not a warning ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dallas
> > >
> > > ============================
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IronGround@aol.com [mailto:IronGround@aol.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:23 PM
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Theos-World Re: Secret Doctrine - Destroyed And Then
> > > Created Again?
> > >
> > > In a message dated 9/20/01 10:17:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > nos@granite.net.au writes:
> > >
> > > > Have a large dose of LSD and you can experience this
> first hand.
> > > It's > freaky at first but there's nothing like applying
> the theory
> > > > practically.
> > > >
> > > > Namaste
> > > >
> > > > Nos
> > >
> > > >:-) Ha! I don't like stuff like that anymore - for the last 25
> > > years I very much prefer things like meditation and Astral
> > projection
> > > - still not that
> > > good at either of them, but am still working on it - g'Day! >:-)
> > > Grounge
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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