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Re: Theos-World US Karma

Sep 14, 2001 09:33 PM
by Michael Chavis

on 9/13/01 11:19 PM, Bart Lidofsky at wrote:

> Frank Reitemeyer wrote:
>> There is no religious or policital reason that justifies mass murdering.
>> But violence is not limited to the physical plane alone.
>> There is psychical violence, too, and mental violence, although not so quick
>> to see.
>> It seems that a mumbo is found now, as always. Strange that this Mr Laden
>> was according to newspaper reports a former CIA coworker. It seems that the
>> US military always produces its own enemies, like before with Pearl Harbor,
>> Gaddafi, Milosevic, Saddam Hussein. Or note the recent hoax with NATO's
>> action in the Cosovo named "Essential Harvest" were they gather the old
>> weapons they sold them before and to make place - for new weapons and new
>> profit.
> I realize that you may have difficulty understanding this, but there is
> a difference between attacking military targets of people trying to
> destroy you, and attacking innocent civilians from a country doing you
> no harm. Laden, among others, were among a population in Afghanistan
> being systematically poisoned (literally) by the Soviet Union. They
> begged the United States for help, and the United States gave them
> weapons and training to stop the Soviet's illegal weapons. Not to blow
> up buildings occupied by innocent civilians.
> Bart Lidofsky
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
There is no real difference. Taking a life, killing, is killing. Sometimes
it is necessary to take a life, i.e., to save someone else or yourself, but
to cause a death is to create karmic circumstances the repercussions of
which are generally unassailable in one lifetime. Here there is no rational
discussion regarding other possibilities. Careful when deciding to take a
life. Revenge, is no excuse, and killing, we know from our present
execution system is no deterrent. In this case killing by us will probably
only fuel hatred, anger and the wish to continue the killing. Is this what
we want? I'm certain that I feel anger, rage even as I watch over and over
the dramatic scenes, and as I talk, live and work with people who are close
to this matter and as I struggle. I'm sure I want to hit something, or
punish someone, but alas, given the personal and world-wide repercussions,
there must be a saner way.
Michael Chavis <>

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