Theos-Talk Archives (August 2001 Message tt00013)

HPB states in numerous places that most Esoteric Schools (especially
free masonry) were compromised by the Jesuits - surely this is what
happened to the TS. - Is that the crux of the argument? 

Nos



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##From: Frank Reitemeyer [mailto:ringding@blinx.de] 
##Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2001 7:32 AM
##To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
##Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophical Organizations
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##Doss:
##On the other hand, if an organization is an association of 
##people with a common interest, then there is no requirement 
##for any formal legal organizational setup and it may be 
##impossible to get any information about it or from it.
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##The above is the situation with all organizations including 
##theosophical ones.
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##Frank:
##All well said: "if an organization is an association of 
##people with a common interest" - but that counts surely not 
##for the Theosophists. The most hate and quarrel in life I 
##found in theosophical circles and the fact that someone 
##enters a theosophical groups makes him not a Theosophists. It 
##shows only the he/she/it is just INTERESTED in it, but that 
##does not mean that he/he/it has understood it, even after 
##some decades or lifes. I hardly met ever three "Theosophists" 
##which even would agree in the definition what Theosophy is, 
##even from the same lineage - not to think of other lineages. 
##In fact, the way Theosophy is interpreted in the Adyar 
##lineage is not understood by ULT - and reverse. Or what ULT 
##interprets is not understood by Pasadena-ists and reverse 
##etc. etc. etc. Perhaps it is because that each of these 
##schools is either downwards or upwards compatible to each 
##other with the result that a higher school can understand 
##what a lower school says but not reverse. Perhaps scholars 
##should find out if and how the today four main lineages are 
##relating to each other:
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##1. Point Loma
##2. Adyar
##3. Pasadena
##4. ULT
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##A clear view on this could lead to a better understanding and 
##could help to try to cooperate. But unless each lineage is 
##not aware what the other lineage means in using the same 
##words or which doctrines are accepted and which not - there 
##can be no progress in the whole theosophical movement, no 
##real understanding (I mean not just emotionalism) if we play 
##further on ostrich. It's time for tabula rasa. Purucker was 
##around 1940 of the opinion that for a long time to come the 
##theosophical movement would not be able to understand the 
##other lineage and cooperate. But this is 60 years back, 
##perhaps we have today a little bit more cleverness.
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