Theos-Talk Archives (August 2001 Message tt00011)

Doss:
On the other hand, if an organization is an association of people with a
common interest, then there is no requirement for any formal legal
organizational setup and it may be impossible to get any information about
it or from it.

The above is the situation with all organizations including theosophical
ones.

Frank:
All well said: "if an organization is an association of people with a common
interest" - but that counts surely not for the Theosophists. The most hate
and quarrel in life I found in theosophical circles and the fact that
someone enters a theosophical groups makes him not a Theosophists. It shows
only the he/she/it is just INTERESTED in it, but that does not mean that
he/he/it has understood it, even after some decades or lifes. I hardly met
ever three "Theosophists" which even would agree in the definition what
Theosophy is, even from the same lineage - not to think of other lineages.
In fact, the way Theosophy is interpreted in the Adyar lineage is not
understood by ULT - and reverse. Or what ULT interprets is not understood by
Pasadena-ists and reverse etc. etc. etc.
Perhaps it is because that each of these schools is either downwards or
upwards compatible to each other with the result that a higher school can
understand what a lower school says but not reverse.
Perhaps scholars should find out if and how the today four main lineages are
relating to each other:

1. Point Loma
2. Adyar
3. Pasadena
4. ULT

A clear view on this could lead to a better understanding and could help to
try to cooperate. But unless each lineage is not aware what the other
lineage means in using the same words or which doctrines are accepted and
which not - there can be no progress in the whole theosophical movement, no
real understanding (I mean not just emotionalism) if we play further on
ostrich. It's time for tabula rasa.
Purucker was around 1940 of the opinion that for a long time to come the
theosophical movement would not be able to understand the other lineage and
cooperate. But this is 60 years back, perhaps we have today a little bit
more cleverness.