Theos-Talk Archives (July 2001 Message tt00274)

John:
He was clairvoyant. That's nowhere close to claiming adeptship. If I
were clairvoyant, I'd probably do much the same as he did - write books and
lecture about what I could see.

Frank:
Perhaps he was sometimes a little bit clairvoyant. Anyway, to be skilled in
practical occultism, not matter which, high or low, makes an adept of this
science. Perhaps you intermix adept with master.

Frank:
"Leadbeater claimed that the 12 apostles of Jesus came together
in Huizen, The Netherlands to participate this ceremony."

John:
Not! Having spent 16 years in Australia, Leadbeater returned to put an
end to that nonsense.

Frank:
Good to hear. Please, can you specify this? Any sources?
Why is that not made public?

Frank:
"Mary Luytens, 1981, p. 250, states that George Arundale and
Wedgwood saw themselves as direct pupils of the Maha-Chohan, Wegdwood as the
coming Mahachohan of the 7th root race, Annie Besant was regarded as the
Manu and CWL as the Bodhisattva."

John:
This was also part of the frenzy that Leadbeater put an end to.

Frank:
Would like to see more details.


Frank:
"CWL also made frequently astral night flights with his
sleeping pupils to the Wesak valley to the Maha Chohan. No pupil has had any
recollection to
their own initiations, but CWL was so friendly to tell them all details next
morning. Do you believe that someone gets dates with the Maha Chohan in
the night to bring him initiate-pupils without being himself an adept? Only
adepts get dates with the boss of the Masters."

John:
I don't know the qualifications for meeting an adept. But I suspect the

Frank:
You'll find this qualifications in the "Mahatma letters", f.e. the statement
of KH that the masters only take pupils if they are willing and able to
co-work with them for their cause.

John:
Geoffrey Hodson, in his diary, (Light of the Sanctuary) noted the
day when this occurred, and he had unbroken consciousness from that day
onward.

Frank:
Is that this guy who has talked with Jesus, Mother Mary and the 12 apostels?
Do you believe that Hodgson was a psychic, a clairvoyant, playing in the
lower astral world (or was played) or was he an esotericist in the
definition of HPB and the Masters?