Theos-Talk Archives (July 2001 Message tt00265)

In a message dated 07/25/01 9:56:35 AM, johnb@quickinfo.net writes:

>Dallas wrote, " It has been said that he who speaks of seeing and meeting
>with the Master thereby loses touch. My judgment would be that if, as
>is said, Leadbeater had stood "face t face with the 'Great Initiator,' it 
would
>never have been spoken of by him, and no other would have known the fact.
>Leadbeater sought to be recognized as a great teacher...any one claiming
>Adeptship is not an Adept, and this is in the very nature of things...."
>
> Pythagoras allowed his pupils to call him the Hyperborean Apollo. 
>He also spoke of his past lives. Shall we assume he was a fraud?

Aside from the fact that Dallas didn't write that -- Robert Crosbie (possibly 
an Adept, IMHO, Judging from his writings) did -- I would ask... How do you 
know whether or not Pythagorus allowed his students to call him that? 

However, even if he did allow it, did he also allow non students the same 
right by claiming the title in a public book or outside his school? Also, 
don't you think that speaking of past lives by an Adept to his avowed and 
initiated students is one thing, while bragging about them in public is 
another? 

The way that any teacher can be assumed a fraud or not, is by testing his/her 
teachings in the light of the Master within (if you have awakened him), or 
against the truths taught by a recognized Master. Leadbeater, in my view 
(after long and deep study of all the great Masters) meets none of these 
criteria. 

LHM