Theos-Talk Archives (July 2001 Message tt00162)

>JERRY: Dallas, was this a result of the Khristamurti business? Or something
>else? I thought that Crosbie founded ULT out of some kind of problem with
>Pasadena, not Adyar (??). Are you saying that Tingley's drama etc was not
>"real Theosophy?" In any case, I would really like to hear exactly what you
>think is "real Theosophy" and exactly why you perceive it not to exist in
>the other TSs. I would think that an honest answer may go far to some kind
>of union.

In addition - as it is been said that the ULT is a 6th round organization,
which is BTW an interesting claim as HPB regarded even an adept like Plato
as being only 5th round - I would like to know what new insights into
Theosophy, what doctrines, has the ULT brought forward in the time from 1909
until today which are unknown to other Theosophists?
Is it possible to get a clear answer?
Please name soemone the doctrines or insights which are new?
If it is true that Robert Crosbie was 6th round and Katherine Tingley was
only 4th round this question is very naturally as one can conclude that
there a much greater insights.
Frank

<<<<The T S had changed drastically in direction and in teachings
since her "death," and since that in 1896 of Mr. Judge in
America. HPB'S writings had been changed by editing, and were
going "out-of-print." Mr. Judge was unknown.

The books were not out-of-print. A list of publications of the Point Loma TS
from the UCSD on my desk shows that they were frequently reprinted by that
TS.
I needed, I can quote it.

>Blavatsky and Judge walked on water, and everyone else was a black magician
>or devil incarnate or worse. Please tell me if my conclusion is wrong.

As Tingley was accepted by Judge (and perhaps by HPB before 1891?) then ULT
has to drop Judge also.
You cannot accept Judge and reject Tingley. They stand and fall together.
Frank