Theos-Talk Archives (March 2001 Message tt00065)

Wednesday, March 07, 2001

 

 

DearM------

 

 

            Searching -- From Known To Unknown -- use Analogies if possible

 

Any search starts from the KNOWN and proceeds to the UNKNOWN.  But as the Universe is logical and works economically most processes are analogous and similar regardless of the level or plane that is considered.  For instance human reincarnation can be compared to the re-manifestation of a Universe or a solar system.  The UNIVERSAL SPIRITmay be analogous to the “Ray of that U. spirit” which incarnates inthe Man and is the basis for the EGO.  And so on.

 

The unanswerable Zen Koans merely point to the fact that whether there is a hearer or not, the phenomena of sound pervades and completes the equation. Nature is logical.  Man using his LOWERMIND invents difficulties that are non-existent, and wastes time, that could otherwise be spent constructively.  The Zen masters desired at an early stage to separate the “awake” from the “dormant” minds.  These were some of the tests.  The HIGHER MIND  (Buddhi-Manas) long ago solved such things and became advisor to the embodied brain-mind

 

 

            ESSENTIALS  --  You decide

 

If you want ESSENTIALS, then why not start with the FUNDAMENTALS As found in the S.D.  Vol., I  pp 14 -20 

 

1.         GOD/SPACE IMPERSONAL

2.         LAW OF CAUSE AND EFFECT-- universal and personal

3.         UNIVERSAL EVOLUTION  from MONAD to Atom, to MAN to A GOD.

 

Are they reasonable?

 

One thing is inescapable. WE ALL DECIDE FOR OURSELVES.  Even the decision not to decide is still a DECISION.

 

 

Best wishes,

 

 

Dallas

 

 

MORE ESSENTIALS

 

PS  In the course of your search and wanderings, what have you learned?  Are you sure of anything?  Yourself?  The Universe around you, and any relation you may establish between yourself and the rest ?

 

Is your mind in a whirl?  Where to begin?

 

Why not set down on a sheet of paper your assets and liabilities and compare them.  How do they relate to you?  Are you sure of them?

 

Use a separate sheet for WHAT YOU KNOW

 

And another for what your want to question -- condense it into easy phrases.  Long years ago I started that way, and it helped.  But I had to do the work.

 

D

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: m Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 4:41 AM
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Subject: SEARCH

 

 

 

Hello again,

Couple of things.  That post from Jerome about devotion re Dharma/duty had Meaning for me in that, in my way, that  kind of duty-Dharma  would seem to be part of my belief-content within, among other things, my belief in by devotion to my SEARCH for more and more  meaning, or Meaning.  So if you sometimes   wonder why I tend to  pose so many questions, (rhetorical or otherwise), in my posts, it's because I'm SEARCHING.  And I sometimes wind up trying to answer my own questions, too.  For example:

As for the two Zen Koans about the one hand clapping and whether there's a  sound in the forest if no one's listening:  I think that, essentially (but how "essential" can one get, potentially?---which would seem to be what theosophic study is all about, as I see it), the answer is,for both  Koans, that regardless of whether or not something is "logical" in a given "what if" scenario, there is always the matter of possible concepts:  one can conceptualize sound, symphonies, whatever:

Essentially, would not  one need to have a measure of pre-conditioned/conceiving, "Essentially conditioned," mentality in order to "hear" anything, anyway?  So the way I tend to see it, everything (around here) would seem to be concept-related, First, and the "after-effects" (of a "Conditioned environment,"such as "the earth plane") would include various related phenomena, such as "sound," etc.  And so,  whether a "sound" is "heard" or not is less relevant, in a sense, than the essential concept of that or any other sound or perception: the concept of a sound, for example, comes first (or First) and then the effect of that concept follows.  Anyway, that's my current thinking about Koans.

So, basically, I BELIEVE in my SEARCH (which may seem "too questioning" to you?), and everything else has to take a back seat in my order of priorities, at the moment---in case you were wondering.

I won't try to answer everything in this post, but it's a start.  More later, I guess.

M