Theos-Talk Archives (November 2000 Message tt00046)

Dear Mr Carpenter and List,

Numbers counting and their various progressions are all numeric expression of
occurrence / existence.

To go to roots, basics, fundamentals.. let's start from where it all began.

What are numbers? .. The comparison of everything in quantity (that is what we
invented numberings for, it is our invention, only one point of view WE
invented)

One stick exists, another stick exists.. together.. they are 2 sticks. There is
no such thing as "no sticks".. but we can imagine .. where "there are no
sticks"; only then .. no sticks is a reality.. Thus 0 sticks. In that context,
of course 0 is an existence.

Those are things which are "countable" or comparable to one another in
quantity. There are things which are not countable. That is where numbers fail
to be the expressions of these existences. Numbers can only signify things which
are structured in solid form due to their atomic structures.. You cannot count
water.. If you example "a drop of water". I can bring another drop and mix with
it, and they both become one drop.

Yes .. there is where all numbers actually merge with more facts than
"number-science" as significantly as materialistic existence (touchables) with
non-materialistic existence's (untouhcables).. Somewhat the same as.. the
smallest particles of an object are not quite touchable materials.. yet when
they are in the usual circumstance they might create a physique. You see .. all
these, we are still considering, ... ALL THESE in regards to things we can
sense.. either by physical touch, or hear or vision .. or some other ways. We
might not be able to notice many occurrences .. that is where we have found to
numeric expression opening up the gates to .. those un-noticed existances, but
we know they exist.. those 2 numeric expressions are ..0 and infinity.

Opens up a whole lot of discussions. You know it is all like a 3 dimensional
jigsaw puzzle. Just by numbers you have one little part of the whole puzzle..
there are all other concepts that need to click.. And when they do.. you know
you got something.. But how on earth are you going to explain it in words..?

Sham