Re: Theos-World The old ways still work...
Oct 12, 2000 04:22 PM
by Dennis Kier
Yes, you are right <in your situation>.
You are talking about the one on one situation. But, then, if we go
into the bookstores, or specalty shops, we see the loads of tacky
knick-knacks, and the tons of books on occult and mystical subjects,
we are out on the other extreme of the Wisdom Teachings.
Both sides need to be served. Only a relative few will be served by
your methods. The great wave of inquirers will not find a personal
guru, but will have to prepare themselves on their own. They will have
to purchace the teachings in the form of books, and correspondence
cources, and the like.
If you go into a Theosophical Book store today, wishing to find some
of the teachings, will you expect the proprieters to give you the
book, or will you expect to purchace them?
Others not in your particular situation will need to pay for the
materials involved, and even for the time expended to make them
available, if not for the "teachings" themselves.
In some situations, it is different this time.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 5:46 PM
Subject: Theos-World The old ways still work...
> --- In email@example.com, "Dennis Kier" <dennw3k@e...> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Bart Lidofsky <bartl@s...>
> > To: <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Kundalini
> > > arthra999@y... wrote:
> > > > A test that you can make is whether the person teaching
> > on
> > > > this subject of spiritual liberation or such wants a
> > or
> > > > fee. I would be suspicious of such a person and have always
> > avoided
> > > > teachers who offered lessons in this area for fees. The great
> > > > teachers offer these things to worthy students who are sincere
> > > > pure of heart and money never enters the picture.
> > >
> > > Until the teacher starves to death.
> > >
> > > Bart Lidofsky
> > True!
> > It is different this time. It does take money to exist in our time
> > location. It was OK to have nothing, and beg for food, and have
> > or no property, long ago.
> > Now, it takes licenses, postage, and literature, and volunteers to
> > package and assemble the materials. As you say, to stay alive the
> > teacher needs to eat. In the old days, the teacher could get along
> > having only a few pupils. In our time, a teacher teaches
> > now, if you want the teachings, you should at least offer to pay
> > the materials, and for the teacher's time, if not for the
> > itself.
> > Of course, in the old days, it was the student that scrounged
> > for food for the group. Can we understand that the person who is
> > suspicious when money is mentioned wants to take, but never give?
> > It was not too much different for Col. Olcott and HPB, who spent
> > of their own money for the Society, and got little but adulation
> > return.
> > Different cultures need different approaches to spread the
> > Dennis
> Thanks Dennis... I still think the old ways are best.
> When I was a teenager visiting the beach a wonderful lady gave me a
> book without fee called Initiation Human and Solar. No questions
> asked. It changed my view of things.
> Later I was just starting out in my spiritual quest about forty
> ago and went to an Ashram and my Guru. He admitted me for study of
> Vedanta. I had nothing to give him but I worked at the Ahsram as
> needed. Years later in 1997 I again was a student of a Sanskrit
> scholar for a year and a half, again, no fees were asked and there
> were only two students in his class ... In return I've been teaching
> Yoga for free without charges in my community the past few years...
> that's the way it works... we don't need fees and licenses and
> insurance and such when imparting spiritual truth is involved.
> Kirpal Singh said that the way you find your Guru is to go to him
> sit near him and look in his eyes and forehead. If you feel uplifted
> he is the one...He also said if you havce a question your Guru will
> answer it with no effort on your part! No fees no lessons by mail...
> spiritual truth being imparted. The old ways are best.
> - Art
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