Theos-Talk Archives (October 2000 Message tt00057)

I agree. There are two ways of using words that can be considered here.
One way is to describe an experience with words. Sometimes this is easy
sometimes it is hard, depending on the nature of the experience. The other
way is to use words to inspire and invite, to use words injunctively. Such
is a recipe. Such is a sheet of music. Such are tennis lessons or golf
lessons and such is from the wise about living, loving and being. There
comes a time wherein one stops descibing the cake and just gives out the
recipe. Follow the instructions. Experience the cake for yourself. Then
you will understand. I didn't understand all the excitement and interest in
concentration, meditation and contemplation until I found my own delightful
way and started to practice. Now, after 25 years, I understand a bit
better.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shampan-e-Shindh" <shampan@zip.com.au>
To: "Theosophy Talk" <theos-talk@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:28 AM
Subject: Theos-World kundaliny


> beto410 wrote:
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> "Or maybe somebody knows but they don't want to talk about it."
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> What I understand of any inner knowledge and feelings such as
> kundaliny, those who feel, could hardly express in words.
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> About any feeling, expressing with words is almost impossible. We
> can try with a vague few words, but the rest has to be left for
> the others to imagnine, know, understand and feel.
>
> It is not a matter of want to talk or not, it is rather the
> impossibility to detail.
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> The deeper and inner the feeling is, the harder to put in words.
> Some people think it is very complicated.... I would say it is
> the other way around.. Far too simple, for our complicated minds
> to grasp in a flash. (I could go on for years on that, but not
> necessary, you are all presumably wiser than me)
>
> I shall give you a very simple example, can you describe
> "silence" in words to someone who has never quite experienced it?
> You will structure a few phrases to detail, but can you actually
> bring the silence into his mind?
>
> Allow me to be a bit more elaborate, even the most "advanced
> humans" (in mental/spiritual evolution aspect) such as Yeesah,
> Yeesu, Jesu or Jesus what ever you might call him, all of them
> did not quite feel it the same way as one another. There are
> light differences, although every one of their experiences are
> absolutely profound. What is a certain symphony to you is not the
> same to me, we both might admire it, understand and play it with
> equal expertise .. but our personal individual feelings are not
> the same. And we both enjoy it together, .. kindaliny is somewhat
> that to such great spiritual achievers .. Thus their descriptions
> might differ a little, but they both mean exactly the same...
> kindaliny as you and I would fail to describe the same symphony
> to someone who has never heard it.
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> Obviously I am utterly against using words such as kundaliny, I
> know we should give them some "names", we have to.. just
> something in the back of my mind says,.. "not quite right".. One
> symptom to support me there is ... many sages, thinkers have
> given this kundaliny various other names.
>
> I am sorry, if I sound a bit haphazard, I am really busy.. but
> this topic is to good a temptation to overlook.
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