Theos-Talk Archives (October 2000 Message tt00051)

Kundalini is very real. For each person the affect of the raising of the
triple fire up the spine is different for each person. The perhaps most
important point of this phenomena is that the whole experience must be
natural, not forced. It must be the result of a natural expression of
spiritual unfoldment, for if not, the experience can be quite violent and
life threatening. If natural, it can still be problematic. An important
point (to me) to keep in mind, if you are having such experiences, see a
Teacher, a true Teacher.

There are two books that come to mind, which to me, are trustworthy. One is
the experiences of Gopi Krishna. This is a book which has been published for
at least 25 years. The second is a book by John White -it is a compilation
of experiences from many people that John W. compiled. Especially the one by
John White (I suspect you could check at Amazon.com) is good reading, for
you can learn about the wide variety of experiences people have had. The
Gopi Krishna experience is good to read about for it was extreme..

I hope this helps.

Joleen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shampan-e-Shindh" <shampan@zip.com.au>
To: "Theosophy Talk" <theos-talk@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 7:28 AM
Subject: Theos-World kundaliny


> beto410 wrote:
>
> "Or maybe somebody knows but they don't want to talk about it."
>
> What I understand of any inner knowledge and feelings such as
> kundaliny, those who feel, could hardly express in words.
>
> About any feeling, expressing with words is almost impossible. We
> can try with a vague few words, but the rest has to be left for
> the others to imagnine, know, understand and feel.
>
> It is not a matter of want to talk or not, it is rather the
> impossibility to detail.
>
> The deeper and inner the feeling is, the harder to put in words.
> Some people think it is very complicated.... I would say it is
> the other way around.. Far too simple, for our complicated minds
> to grasp in a flash. (I could go on for years on that, but not
> necessary, you are all presumably wiser than me)
>
> I shall give you a very simple example, can you describe
> "silence" in words to someone who has never quite experienced it?
> You will structure a few phrases to detail, but can you actually
> bring the silence into his mind?
>
> Allow me to be a bit more elaborate, even the most "advanced
> humans" (in mental/spiritual evolution aspect) such as Yeesah,
> Yeesu, Jesu or Jesus what ever you might call him, all of them
> did not quite feel it the same way as one another. There are
> light differences, although every one of their experiences are
> absolutely profound. What is a certain symphony to you is not the
> same to me, we both might admire it, understand and play it with
> equal expertise .. but our personal individual feelings are not
> the same. And we both enjoy it together, .. kindaliny is somewhat
> that to such great spiritual achievers .. Thus their descriptions
> might differ a little, but they both mean exactly the same...
> kindaliny as you and I would fail to describe the same symphony
> to someone who has never heard it.
>
> Obviously I am utterly against using words such as kundaliny, I
> know we should give them some "names", we have to.. just
> something in the back of my mind says,.. "not quite right".. One
> symptom to support me there is ... many sages, thinkers have
> given this kundaliny various other names.
>
> I am sorry, if I sound a bit haphazard, I am really busy.. but
> this topic is to good a temptation to overlook.
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