Theos-Talk Archives (October 2000 Message tt00037)

Robert,

This is very interesting information and clearly written. Thankyou. The
thinning of the veil between the astral and physical planes perhaps explains
alot of these strange and unusual "physical" sightings. And I'm not saying
they are hallucinations. And, what are hallucinations anyway?

Gene
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From: "roberthutwohl" <roberthutwohl@earthlink.net>
To: <theos-talk@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Sightings of UFOs are throughout ancient literature


> Dear Kate and all,
>
> Clearly flying saucer-like flying machines are mentioned in the Sanskrit
> version of Indiaıs two oldest itihâsas or historical treatises, the
Râmâyana
> and the large Mahâbhârata (such as in the Drona Parva chapter). In those
> books, the flying machines are called ³vimânas² or the mythical chariots
of
> the gods (also called celestial cars) and I have found this term and its
> description variously throughout several chapters of these great texts.
The
> Mahâbhârata though is describing the great war between the earliest Aryan
or
> original Asian-Indian subcontinent people, whose land stretched from
> southern Russia southward to Ceylon (now known today as Srî Lankâ) and
parts
> which are now submerged as well as other parts of continents, and the
> remnants of the Atlanteans embodied as Râkshasas or the evil and
demoniacal
> remnants of the Atlantean (Sons of the Darkness), who ran counter to the
> moral, spiritual Atlanteans (Sons of the Sun). But these vehicles I think,
> are of this earth, not from beyond our planet, so we should not call them
> extra-terrestrial. They used the power of Vril-force as the main
propellant.
> (See Sir Edward Bulwer Lyttonıs ³The Coming Race.²)
>
> The fact that they existed at all due to the technology and advancement of
a
> past race is indicative of their potentiality in manifesting again when
> humanity is morally ready for it. The same for unleashing the Vril or
> etheric power as an aspect of FOHAT which John Worrell Keely discovered
(by
> mistake) in Philadelphia around 1872 or so, where he was able to generate
a
> force exhibiting a pressure of 2,000 pounds per square inch (and even at
> times 20,000 pounds/sq. in.).
>
> One question to be applied is whether the Masters of Wisdom and
Compassion,
> Who are humanityıs protectors and guides, would allow the entry in to our
> own world-system from other systems, other units of consciousness from
other
> worlds which could possibly disrupt the evolutionary progress or balance,
> i.e. spriritually-mentally-physically? However, I have no doubts about the
> necessity of other forms of consciousness inhabiting other globes,
spheres,
> worlds, and stars. The economy of nature and the intent of
> divine-intelligent Impulse from the level of divine-substance or the ONE
> ELEMENT would prohibit otherwise.
>
>
> Blavatskyıs The Secret Doctrine relates some one million years ago in the
> far north area of the Gobi sands or Shamo as protecting the Initiates of
the
> Atlantean (Serpents of Wisdom) who preceded and taught the Aryan race
> Adepts. Encounters, karmically or otherwise would naturally ensue from its
> ancestor race, the fourth or Atlantean material and immoral branches.
Hence
> the description of the great war as found in the Mahâbhârata. This region
> covered the area known as Arghya Vars[h]a which is of south Tibet to the
> Gobi Desert, the region of the Holy Island, which has been a refuge from
the
> Atlantean, for the Immortals. In fact, the Mahâ-Chohan has, as one of his
> honorary titles, that of Arghyanâtha.
>
> Exudences from the Astral Light, the Etheric field just beyond the
physical
> realm are known to have happened on many occasions and I have no doubts
the
> phenomena of vimânas from the past can break through the physical envelope
> and make themselves temporarily seen and known. People have even seen
> sailing ships from long past make their way into the physical realm.
>
> By the means of psychometry, a form of clairvoyance and clairaudience, one
> may tap into this memory of nature and witness the unfolding of events
long
> past the present. But with the aid of elementals, materialisations from
the
> Astral Light may be presented to those without clairvoyant faculties, and
> without even the presence of a medium. In a gist, the original phenomena
is
> generated as as elementary or desire-thought-form from a human being.
Then,
> once generated, it is forever stored in the perpetual storehouse or mind
of
> nature, to be drawn out again by the elemental agency. Hence, the stories
> about the Flying Dutchman, a phantom ship seen off the shores of the Cape
of
> Good Hope, a mâyâ in production, and only a misty reflection of a once
> original ship long since gone. The drawing forth into objectivity from the
> Astral Light, of flying ships or UFOıs of long past civilisations, is a
> possibility. The intelligent agents involved in these manifestations may
be
> incarnate or disincarnate.
>
> Robert Hütwohl
>
>
>
>
> > From: MorganArts@aol.com
> > Reply-To: theos-talk@egroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:35:29 EDT
> > To: theos-talk@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Sightings of UFOs are throughout ancient
literature:
> >
> > Dear Art,
> >
> > What a fascinating post you sent! Can you say where Nicholas Roerich
> > mentioned the sighting? I have a great deal of respect for Nicholas
Roerich
> > and would love to know more about his beliefs in UFOs. Also, can you
talk
> > more on the Pillars of Asoka?
> >
> > Thanks so much!
> >
> > Gratefully,
> > Kate
> >
> > P.S. You have a wonderful name!
> >
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