Theos-Talk Archives (June 2000 Message tt00030)

"Learning is pursued through daily addition;
Tao is practiced through daily subtraction."

Lao Tzu



scott holloman wrote:

> I can learn from others leasons.Saving time and suffering is
> noble.Evolution is intrinsic and quantam?
>   2x2=4
>   4x4=16
>   16x16=132
>      I wrote a paper on evolution;it SEEMS intrinsic;the leaps are
> amazing.    Scotty
> Govert W. Schuller wrote:
> >
> > Hello, mkr. thanks for responding to the paragraph [see below]
> >
> > MKR:This is an issue the K himself addressed.
> >
> > He may have reached whatever transformation he had with a great amount of
> > effort,
> >
> > GOVERT: Not only by his own effort. Anrias' Maitreya said: "Thus although
> > Krishnamurti was right to emphasize the necessity for independent thought, he
> > was wrong in assuming that everyone else, regardless of past Karma and present
> > limitations, could instantly reach that point which he himself had only reached
> > through lives of effort, and by the aid of those Cosmic Forces apportioned to
> > him solely for his office as Herald of the New Age."
> >
> > MKR: while he stated that instant transformation is possible for anyone
> > who tries.
> >
> > GOVERT: He can very well state that, but fact remains that nobody proved it to
> > be true.
> >
> > MKR: He gave the example of the great risk and time and trouble that
> > Columbus had to go through when he travelled by ship to the America. Today,
> > most take the easy method of taking a commercial airline flight.
> >
> > GOVERT: This metaphor is not working for me, because even with modern flight
> > technology you need 1) time, a no-no for K, 2) planning, another no-no, and 3)
> > help from the captain, another no-no.
> >
> > MKR: So he did not have a double standard.
> >
> > GOVERT: I don't see the reasoning here
> >
> > At 06:51 PM 05/31/2000 -0500, you wrote: quoting:
> >
> > >Regarding the feasibility of Krishnamurti's suggestion of a profound
> > fundamental transformation of
> > the human consciousness, it has to be pointed out that Krishnamurti did not
> > arrive at that level of
> > consciousness by way of his own proposed instantaneous 'non-method.'(16)
> > He arrived there solely
> > by treading first the path of initiation under a Master (17)--going almost
> > to its final conclusion--then
> > stepped aside, and denounced the whole method.(18)
> > <
> >
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