Theos-Talk Archives (June 2000 Message tt00022)

I can learn from others leasons.Saving time and suffering is
noble.Evolution is intrinsic and quantam?
  2x2=4
  4x4=16
  16x16=132
     I wrote a paper on evolution;it SEEMS intrinsic;the leaps are
amazing.    Scotty
Govert W. Schuller wrote:
> 
> Hello, mkr. thanks for responding to the paragraph [see below]
> 
> MKR:This is an issue the K himself addressed.
> 
> He may have reached whatever transformation he had with a great amount of
> effort,
> 
> GOVERT: Not only by his own effort. Anrias' Maitreya said: "Thus although
> Krishnamurti was right to emphasize the necessity for independent thought, he
> was wrong in assuming that everyone else, regardless of past Karma and present
> limitations, could instantly reach that point which he himself had only reached
> through lives of effort, and by the aid of those Cosmic Forces apportioned to
> him solely for his office as Herald of the New Age."
> 
> MKR: while he stated that instant transformation is possible for anyone
> who tries.
> 
> GOVERT: He can very well state that, but fact remains that nobody proved it to
> be true.
> 
> MKR: He gave the example of the great risk and time and trouble that
> Columbus had to go through when he travelled by ship to the America. Today,
> most take the easy method of taking a commercial airline flight.
> 
> GOVERT: This metaphor is not working for me, because even with modern flight
> technology you need 1) time, a no-no for K, 2) planning, another no-no, and 3)
> help from the captain, another no-no.
> 
> MKR: So he did not have a double standard.
> 
> GOVERT: I don't see the reasoning here
> 
> At 06:51 PM 05/31/2000 -0500, you wrote: quoting:
> 
> >Regarding the feasibility of Krishnamurti's suggestion of a profound
> fundamental transformation of
> the human consciousness, it has to be pointed out that Krishnamurti did not
> arrive at that level of
> consciousness by way of his own proposed instantaneous 'non-method.'(16)
> He arrived there solely
> by treading first the path of initiation under a Master (17)--going almost
> to its final conclusion--then
> stepped aside, and denounced the whole method.(18)
> <
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