Theos-Talk Archives (June 2000 Message tt00013)

Hello, mkr. thanks for responding to the paragraph [see below]

MKR:This is an issue the K himself addressed.

He may have reached whatever transformation he had with a great amount of
effort,

GOVERT: Not only by his own effort. Anrias' Maitreya said: "Thus although
Krishnamurti was right to emphasize the necessity for independent thought, he
was wrong in assuming that everyone else, regardless of past Karma and present
limitations, could instantly reach that point which he himself had only reached
through lives of effort, and by the aid of those Cosmic Forces apportioned to
him solely for his office as Herald of the New Age."

MKR: while he stated that instant transformation is possible for anyone
who tries.

GOVERT: He can very well state that, but fact remains that nobody proved it to
be true.

MKR: He gave the example of the great risk and time and trouble that
Columbus had to go through when he travelled by ship to the America. Today,
most take the easy method of taking a commercial airline flight.

GOVERT: This metaphor is not working for me, because even with modern flight
technology you need 1) time, a no-no for K, 2) planning, another no-no, and 3)
help from the captain, another no-no.

MKR: So he did not have a double standard.

GOVERT: I don't see the reasoning here


At 06:51 PM 05/31/2000 -0500, you wrote: quoting:

>Regarding the feasibility of Krishnamurti's suggestion of a profound
fundamental transformation of
the human consciousness, it has to be pointed out that Krishnamurti did not
arrive at that level of
consciousness by way of his own proposed instantaneous 'non-method.'(16)
He arrived there solely
by treading first the path of initiation under a Master (17)--going almost
to its final conclusion--then
stepped aside, and denounced the whole method.(18)
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