Theos-Talk Archives (June 2000 Message tt00025)

David,

>DAVID: "I think that, the obvious disctintion between the two
>Maitreyas, requires some kind of proof from Govert, too.  Or at least, some
>commentary."
>
>GOVERT: My belief that the real Maitreya communicated through David Anrias is
>based on the following intricately connected factors:
>
>1) Cyril Scott presented Anrias as a genuine contact with the Masters.
>2) Based on his 'Initiate' books and his book on music I consider Scott
himself
>a contact of the Masters.
>3) The reasonable and balanced theosophical nature of the remarks both
Scott's
>'Sir Thomas' and Anrias' Maitreya make about K and his teachings.
>
>4) The effectiveness of Anrias' portraits for meditation, or just
inspiration.
>
>5) The consensus of almost all the Masters' emissaries that the project
with K
>was genuine but unsuccesful. (IMO: CWL, Hodson, Ballard, Prophet, Anrias,
Scott)
>
>6) The impossibilty to reconcile HPB's deeper teachings on the path with
those
>of K and the gravity of the implications when these differences are
reasoned to
>their logical conclusion.

But these aren't really proofs......are they?  If I might say, they appear
to be conjecture, heresay, speculation and, at most, an educated guess
based upon, perhaps, intuition.  It can be as easily dimissed as what *I*
have offered as my "opinion" about the externalization of Maitreya and the
Hierarchy at this time according to Benjamin Creme.
   I am well aware, and have stated so before, that I am doubtful about
providing any form of "proof" that would convince anyone of Maitreya's
presence in the world today.  In that, I intentionally put forth my opinion
so that the reader would be aware of my personal bias and obviously,
dismiss it.  I would even go so far as to say that one could, and possibly
should, dismiss what Benjamin Creme says regarding Maitreya and the
externalization of the Hierarchy.  While interesting, no one is 100% sure
that it is not simply the philosophical opinion of some few individuals.
   But that is not the information that I provided for the readers who
requested more information, to follow up on.  I provided specific events,
news reports, publications, records, and named specific individuals (some
very well repected individuals - i.e., Wayne Peterson, retired US Diplomat)
who have stated directly and many times publically that they are having
direct, in the flesh, experiences of Maitreya.  Additionally, they are
having these experiences, sometimes, in groups.  This includes a large
press conference, over a decade ago now, with many world leaders and
representatives as attendees, including reporters, where Maitreya
*demonstrated* openly to the shocked gathering His identity as the Christ.
Many others from around the world, from ordinary walks of life, have
continued to meet with Maitreya.  Several that were spoken with were not
even aware of the "Creme Story" when they spoke openly about their often
miraculous experiences.  Only later do they recognize the picture, when
shown, of the individual who was photographed in Nairobi (Maitreya) as the
One they experienced. 
    There are so many important and difficult to discount events that tie
together to make this a powerfully coherent story that has stretched over 2
decades now.   It is obvious to me that the events that are unfolding are
well out of the hands of Benjamin Creme and are affecting people from all
walks of life and all nations.  
    I have not met Maitreya myself in person.  But I have read too many
documented stories, made by such diverse reporters from all over the world,
and from such unrelated individuals, that it is simply astonishing.  In
general terms, there are superficial inconsistencies in what Creme claims
as the timing for the reappearance.  He has always been extremely adamant
that it has always been "*his own* immediate belief that the reappearance
would happen at such and such a time".  Be that as it may......then remove
Creme from the picture for the moment.  That then brings us back to where
we should be....the facts.
   Let's start in Nairobi, Kenya, for example.  What of the eyewitness
accounts by 6000 people who saw him mysteriously appear and disappear,
speak to the crowd in perfect swahili, the spontaneous healings that took
place, the instant recognition by the crowd that it was the Christ (even
though he is in a Pakistani Mayavarupi)?  The photos, the newspaper story
in the Kenya Times, other eyewitness accounts as reported on the Share
website.....what do we do with that?  Then, there are the accounts of other
events - eyewitness accounts - of flesh and blood meetings with Maitreya.
Accounts by Wayne Peterson, Buddy Piper, etc.  There are radio interviews
given by these gentleman on a regular basis (see details at:
http://www.TransmissionMeditation.org/interviews.html

>One's sincerity does not guarantee the truthfulness of one's beliefs
  
    So let's not divert our attention from the facts by attempting to
dismiss the  possibility of this story by throwing question on the validity
of the story-teller's *opinion* or *beliefs* (or apparant sincerity,
thereof).  Simply look at the facts.  If you can legitimately dis-prove
them, then I'm sure there are 6000 people in Nairobi, Kenya who would be
interested.

Todd  


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