Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00371)

As usual I agree with ya Dallas.I have agreed with almost all your
veiws.I'am not learned or claim to be wise but I do know intelligence
does not =wisdom.Research is good but of course we are talkin about
quality of quantity.Disagreements arise and often I fall back on
intuition(however faulty).References are references and can be out of
context unfortunately.Picking apart a written work is scary to me.How
can I truly paraphrase what some one really mean't even if I had the
pleasure of knowing them personaly.It is my habit to take what wisdom I
can from works and go from there(part of my journey;my way,however
unwise).Is a particular work filled with symbolism or is it mean't to be
taken literally?Is it both?          friends,Scotty 


dalval2nwc.net wrote:
> 
> Dear Friends:
> 
> Of what possible use is "ranking ?"
> 
> Who wants to feel superior to whom ? Why?
> 
> We have all the trouble in the world managing our own lower
> nature to be curious about the struggles or the successes of
> others -- those are all SIDE ISSUES and if anything, they relate
> solely to the individuals themselves and are not up for scrutiny
> for anyone else save one's INNER MASTER.  This has nothing to do
> with the PRINCIPLES or the PROGRESS of the HUMAN EGO through its
> many incarnations.  It is sheer nonsense to believe that this is
> at all significant.  However if one wants to play with toys, then
> let's go to the real children and cease making Theosophical sand
> castles.  Or am I totally wrong in this ?
> 
> Any writing or attention paid to this is way outside the purview
> of ORIGINAL THEOSOPHY.  Can you find HPB (or the Masters) wasting
> and time  at all on such things ?
> 
> Please -- if this be theosophy (which it is not) then save me
> from it.
> 
> Dallas
> 
> D. T. B.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com
> [mailto:owner-theos-talk@theosophy.com]On Behalf Of Dennis Kier
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 9:52 PM
> To: theos-talk@theosophy.com
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Several Comments on Alice Bailey
> 
> >     On the other hand, Creme has indicated that the point of
> evolution for
> > Blavatsky was 4.0 .
> 
> Mr. Leadbeater also had a system of ranking people according to
> their
> spiritual progress. Is this what Creme is using?
> 
> >     Finally, Benjamin Creme claims that he is in telepathic
> rapport, like
> > Bailey and Blavatsky, with one of the Senior Members of the
> Hierarchy, a
> > Master whose name is not to be released at this time, but soon.
> That is
> > the source of his information. His further claim is that it is
> Maitreya,
> > and following that the Hierarchy (including the Master Jesus),
> which is
> > externalizing at this time.  The evidence seems fairly
> convincing and
> > should, I think, be looked at honestly and critically in its
> own light.
> 
> I am pretty sure that he had a center in North Hollywood about 10
> years ago,
> and the claims made then are just about the same as I  am seeing
> again here.
> 
> I was under the impression then that the "externalization" would
> take place
> shortly. Shortly has come and gone.
> 
> It is common to note in Spiritualist circles that one class of
> spirit will
> try to flatter the mediumistic person by telling them of the
> spiritual
> wonders that they will accomplish, and that they were specially
> chosen for
> this mission, until they start taking orders from the spirit,
> after which
> their life will go downhill fast. Mr. Creme has been doing this
> longer than
> most mediums last under the influence.
> 
> I have problems with the slow progress of this Externalization,
> if any is to
> take place. Has Creme been predicting when this EXT. will take
> place? Do you
> get the impression it will be before the next 12 years will pass?
> When I was
> reading the magazine 10 years ago, I am pretty sure that they had
> a date
> fixed for it to happen, and that that date came and went 8 to 10
> years ago.
> 
> There are a lot of people interested in these things. There are
> enough that
> people can constantly come, get aquainted, and then after 2 or 3
> years,
> leave again, that the orgainzation can live on for years.
> 
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