Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00372)

Hi Ernesto,

>I checked out the web site you mentioned, 
>and I found very interesting things,
>some of them really explosive if true, 
>but I think they are not of the same
>value.  There are some some forecasts, 
>for example, that an analist was also in
>the possibility to to do.  That is the case, 
>I think, of the forecast about the
>problems of the financial world.  Anyway, 
>that is not the case of all the
>forecasts.

The point that Maitreya was expecting to demonstrate, more than anything,
was the law of cause and effect and His ability to "see" the outcome of
events.  For instance, He is not so much "predicting" the stock market
crash, but says that, from His point of view, is an inevitability.  In
essence, it has already occurred on the higher planes. When the market
crashes, and it is abvious to *us* now that that is probably inevitable, He
will begin a series of interviews on television as an ordinary man.  That
will be the beginning of His first major public appearances although most
people will simply think He is an ordinary man.  But His ideas and insights
into the world's problems, and its solutions, will be quite lucid and
profound.  People will become curious and want to know more about who this
individual is.  That will begin the exoteric process. 

>I donīt know, also, if this person made 
>many others forecasts (published or
>unpublished) that simply didnīt happen.  
>It could be easy to inform about the
>verified ones, but to silence the other ones.

All of the forecasts that were made were published at once over a period of
a year or so in the late 1980's.  Since then, they have come true one at a
time.  None have ever failed, although, not all have yet come to be.  One
has only recently come true.  Maitreya said that Israel would withdraw from
Lebenon and the Palestinians would have their homeland.  That was an
outlandish forecast 11 years ago.  People have scoffed at that one since
the beginning.  This week we saw the withdrawal of the Isrealis from Lebenon.

No forecasts have yet to fail, and only a few are yet to be fulfilled.  One
is the world stock market crash after which Maitreya would almost
immediately begin His interviews on TV.  Another one, for instance, was
that "the waters of the Thames will flow into the Parliament buildings in
London."  It will be interesting to see that one happen.    

>Something that is intrigating me is 
>the following: it is said, in that website,
>that Maitreya has appeared a lot of times 
>(countries, cities, and dates
>included).  But, has it been confirmed for 
>anyone that in all of those cases it
>is the same person?  If I thought that Benjamin 
>Creme is simply recopilating a
>lot of extrange news, saying freely that 
>they attain to the same fact and to the
>same person, what could you tell me?

I understand your concerns.  In many cases, it is simply the fact that
there is no reasonable way to confirm it outside of Benjamin Creme's
say-so.  It depends upon the experience that occurred.  In other cases, the
individual doesn't need the confirmation of Benjamin Creme because they
actually recognize Maitreya's face from pictures, or they they know
intuitively that it is the Christ, etc.  I don't think that I can say
anything that is really satisfactory to the positive or the negative.  It
remains an open question for many people still.  


>I am just making questions and evaluating 
>that information, because I would not
>like to go fast.

Yes, that's right.  Perhaps think about this, also.  If Benjamin Creme is
wrong or completely out of it, then we will all get a laugh at his expense,
and at ourselves, sometime down the road.  If he is right, however, then it
is likely THE biggest story that has ever happened in the history of
humanity.  As student of esoteric philosophy, we are all aware of the
Hierarchy and the Masters of which Blavatsky and Bailey worte of.  If they
are there and are externalizing over a period of time at the present, then
it only makes sense that they would be stimulateing events all over the
world.  The increase of miracles in the world over the last decade has been
phenomenal.  Apart from Ben's opinion, I'm sure everyone has at least
noticed this sharp increase.  So where is that coming from???  Maybe we
will never know.  But if the Hierarchy is responsible for the miracles,
then they are responsible for all of the miracles.  So why are they causing
miracles?????What are they drawing attention to.  Are they just doing it
and then leaving it all a mystery???  There is something very real going on
in the world.  Bailey talked about the externalization occurring around the
turn of the century.. Could it be we are finally here??

>You said you could recomend me many books.  
>Could you do that, please?

You can get all of Benjamin Creme's books at Amazon.com, or from the
www.shareintl.org site.  I have also put them on my own website in a easily
accessible page http://www.ualberta.ca/~tlorentz/books-Creme.html

>I havenīt found confirmation of the 
>interviews with Gorbachov, Prince Charles,
>and the others.  Where could I look for this confirmation?

These aren't interviews.  These are from Waynes Peterson's personal stories
of encounters with public figures from around the world that he has
dicussed Maitreya and the Hierarchy with.  Apparantly most of the world
leaders, heads of State, economic leaders, religious leaders, etc, are
aware of this and are prepared to step forward to confirm this after the
crash (they have been asked not to before the crash).  Perhaps you could
check out:
http://www.shareintl.org/archives/appearances/ap_wpexperiencing.htm
Peterson has book coming out soon with all of his experiences.

>Have you made yourself any kind of 
>investigation about the facts mentioned in
>the web site?.

I have seen many of the miracles in person, particularly the
crosses-of-light.  In fact, I have one in my house.  It appeared about two
years ago.  I have attended lectures by Benjamin Creme, participated in
Transmission Meditation, and have spoken with many people who have claimed
to have had experiences with Maitreya including Wayne Peterson, Buddy Piper
(he was Redd Skelton's sidekick on the old Redd Skelton show), and many
others.  The power of their conviction is phenomenal and they have
definitely experienced something which has dramatically changed their
lives.  The experiences are very powerful and they are often associated
with some miraculous happening during the event such as Maitreya knows what
they are thinking and He answers them without them having to talk, or He
suddenly appears and disappears, or other incredible things.  Of course,
there is also the enormous consistency that I find between the message and
esoteric philsophy, etc.  It seems very consistent from my perspective. 

>Just another thing: what has this so called Maitreya 
>said about Krishnamurti, if anything?  I found in the 
>website a comparison of their teachings, but I would
>like to know if this person called Maitreya said himself 
>something about that.

If I remember correctly, Maitreya said that Krishnamurti was an ideal
disciple. His disciplined thought process was exceptional.

  Of course, there was much talk about the fact that Krishnamurti was often
over-shadowed by Maitreya during many of his lectures.  Krishnamurti spoke
of the Masters and was very much aware of Maitreya.   

Todd 


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