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Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their relationship toscience.

May 24, 2000 07:52 AM
by Eugene Carpenter


Kim,

This means that one very well may have the empty state of consciousness at
the top of the septenate, then, the second state that contains a
representation of that empty state and then a third state that contains a
representation of the second state: simply, the first three sets of set
theory.


(                         )
(         (     )         )
(        ( (    ) )      )


This would be


The Zero state of consciousness
The One state of consciousness
The Two(or binary) state of consciousness


I know from the books by Robert Kaplan and Charles Seife that zero was
represented by lots of symbols but mainly either a circle or a point or dot
so the third state could be

(    ((  ))    )


or


(    ( . )    )


depending on what was to be conveyed.


This would be a representation of the empty state flashing forth in the
third state like the first instant of the birth of a new star or sun or . .
. .SON

and

( . )  is a symbol of our sun, Son. and Unity at the Atmic Level.


If the Babylonians used a point or a dot to mean 10 it may also mean that a
dot was used to indicate the 1 and the 0 in unity or superpositioned like
people mention in Quantum Mechanics.

Wow!  Thanks.  This certainly is group work and food for group
consciousness.



Gene


-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Poulsen <kpoulsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
Cc: Varena De Cuir <VarenaD@aol.com>; Sandra Steffes <skaslac@aol.com>;
Esoteric Science Group <escience@listbot.com>; Dorthy Rubenstein
<drubenstein@csupomona.edu>
Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
relationship toscience.


>Gene:
>> Kim, comments?
>
>Gene, you never cease to amaze me.
>Let me explain: years ago I was sitting with the Secret Doctrine in my lab,
>having just been reading about Heiric of Auxerre's praise of the hexad in
>his "Life of Sanct Germanus" (quoted in John MacQueens "Numerology"). I was
>trying to analyze the chaldean-sumerian-babylonian numeric key to their
>cosmogony, based on a combination of the hexad and decad in a base-60
>system. The system represents the solar system in relation to the
microcosm,
>I will explain below. I was wondering if other systems were used in
esoteric
>philosophy.
>Suddenly I looked down upon the lines "Add to this the fact that Jehovah is
>the third Sephiroth, Binah, a feminine word, and you have the key to the
>mystery"
>I can still remember the feeling of a great light-flash within my mind.
>But back to the Chaldean system, it is breath-takingly beautiful. You will
>know of the geometrical and zodiacal properties, the division of time, etc.
>
>The basic value was 60, represented by Anu or An (meaning atom in
sanskrit).
>In the earliest sumerian (pre-cuneiform) notation, 10 was represented by a
>point ,1 by a half-point, etc.
>The seven major gods are fractions of their father Anu (1/6, 1/5, 1/4, 1/3,
>1/2, 2/3, and 5/6 or  Marduk, Nergal, Ishtar, Shamash, Sin, Ea-Enki.
>Bel-Enlil) Each of the seven gods represent a musical note, if Anu is taken
>as the basic string length.
>
>But enough of this, much more could be said (note that the unity precedes
>its parts) . But I have exhausted myself beyond those little flashes of
>understanding. Gene, I will not have time to answer your other e-mail
>tonight, so here follows my adress:
>
>Kim Poulsen
>Sdr. Ringvej 60 4-10
>4000 Roskilde
>DENMARK
>
>I have CCed your friends and group.
>;-) Kim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eugene Carpenter
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
>relationship toscience.
>
>
>> I think Charles is pointing out very interesting stuff worth pursuing.
>This
>> is the area I'm struggling to throughly understand.  The I Ching, The
Book
>> of Changes, uses this binary idea so there is an awe-full lot of
>commentary
>> concerning subjective meaning in this area.  I've seen that one of the
>> entities in the Eastern Kabballa is called  Binah.  I found in the SD, I
>> belief, a note indicating a connection of Binah with binary.  The symbol
>of
>> the circle or chakra with the diameter that follows(or rather is
>> simultaneous with) the circle or chakra with the central point seems to
>> relate to this and then the diameter relates to the circle or whole
chakra
>> bringing up the idea of Pi, etc.
>>
>> It seems the THINKER must take Unity at the Atmic level and polarize it
>into
>> Spirit-Matter at the buddhic level and then appear in the  "world" as the
>> Higher Self understanding the continous relationship of Spirit-Matter,
>> Energy-Matter at the scientific level and then be willing to "die" in
>order
>> to ascend once again from this scientific trinity(concrete mind, Ego,
>> Abstract mind)  back to the buddhic-intuitive dualistic continuum of Life
>> and then back to Unity at the Atmic level. "Light" would be given off
>during
>> the descent and absorbed in the ascent.
>>
>> I've free-associated a bit, but I get too excited when someone touches in
>> this area of contemplation.  This is group work, and I think the basis of
>> the renaissance for Theosophy in science and art worldwide, especially in
>> Russia.
>>
>> Thankyou, Charles.
>>
>> Kim, comments?
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles Sitwell <csitwell@xtra.co.nz>
>> To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 6:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
>> relationship toscience.
>>
>>
>> >Eugene Carpenter and others have been saying interesting things about
>> numbers,
>> >the significance of Zero, and One. I just thought I would throw in
> there
>> was a
>> >reference to binary arithmetic, that I find it interesting to consider
>the
>> the
>> >numbers 1 through seven in binary form (using three bits) written under
>> each
>> >other.
>> > Knowing the unfortunate effects of formatting in eMail I'm reluctant to
>do
>> it
>> >here, but as most of you will well know (but I don't want to mystify any
>> who
>> >don't :-) ) the sequence is 001, 010, 011, 100, 101, 110, 111.  My point
>is
>> that
>> >the leftmost position is zero for the upper triad, and 1 for the lower
>> >quaternary.  Also the alternating polarity idea for the levels (planes
of
>> >consciousness or whatever term you prefer) gets some support from the
>> rightmost
>> >column.
>> >It may of course be just coincidence? :-) but its interesting, at lest
to
>> me; so
>> >I thought I'd share it.
>> >Regards
>> >Charles Sitwell.
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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