Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00267)

Kim,

This means that one very well may have the empty state of consciousness at
the top of the septenate, then, the second state that contains a
representation of that empty state and then a third state that contains a
representation of the second state: simply, the first three sets of set
theory.


(                         )
(         (     )         )
(        ( (    ) )      )


This would be


The Zero state of consciousness
The One state of consciousness
The Two(or binary) state of consciousness


I know from the books by Robert Kaplan and Charles Seife that zero was
represented by lots of symbols but mainly either a circle or a point or dot
so the third state could be

(    ((  ))    )


or


(    ( . )    )


depending on what was to be conveyed.


This would be a representation of the empty state flashing forth in the
third state like the first instant of the birth of a new star or sun or . .
. .SON

and

( . )  is a symbol of our sun, Son. and Unity at the Atmic Level.


If the Babylonians used a point or a dot to mean 10 it may also mean that a
dot was used to indicate the 1 and the 0 in unity or superpositioned like
people mention in Quantum Mechanics.

Wow!  Thanks.  This certainly is group work and food for group
consciousness.



Gene


-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Poulsen <kpoulsen@vip.cybercity.dk>
To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
Cc: Varena De Cuir <VarenaD@aol.com>; Sandra Steffes <skaslac@aol.com>;
Esoteric Science Group <escience@listbot.com>; Dorthy Rubenstein
<drubenstein@csupomona.edu>
Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
relationship toscience.


>Gene:
>> Kim, comments?
>
>Gene, you never cease to amaze me.
>Let me explain: years ago I was sitting with the Secret Doctrine in my lab,
>having just been reading about Heiric of Auxerre's praise of the hexad in
>his "Life of Sanct Germanus" (quoted in John MacQueens "Numerology"). I was
>trying to analyze the chaldean-sumerian-babylonian numeric key to their
>cosmogony, based on a combination of the hexad and decad in a base-60
>system. The system represents the solar system in relation to the
microcosm,
>I will explain below. I was wondering if other systems were used in
esoteric
>philosophy.
>Suddenly I looked down upon the lines "Add to this the fact that Jehovah is
>the third Sephiroth, Binah, a feminine word, and you have the key to the
>mystery"
>I can still remember the feeling of a great light-flash within my mind.
>But back to the Chaldean system, it is breath-takingly beautiful. You will
>know of the geometrical and zodiacal properties, the division of time, etc.
>
>The basic value was 60, represented by Anu or An (meaning atom in
sanskrit).
>In the earliest sumerian (pre-cuneiform) notation, 10 was represented by a
>point ,1 by a half-point, etc.
>The seven major gods are fractions of their father Anu (1/6, 1/5, 1/4, 1/3,
>1/2, 2/3, and 5/6 or  Marduk, Nergal, Ishtar, Shamash, Sin, Ea-Enki.
>Bel-Enlil) Each of the seven gods represent a musical note, if Anu is taken
>as the basic string length.
>
>But enough of this, much more could be said (note that the unity precedes
>its parts) . But I have exhausted myself beyond those little flashes of
>understanding. Gene, I will not have time to answer your other e-mail
>tonight, so here follows my adress:
>
>Kim Poulsen
>Sdr. Ringvej 60 4-10
>4000 Roskilde
>DENMARK
>
>I have CCed your friends and group.
>;-) Kim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Eugene Carpenter
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
>relationship toscience.
>
>
>> I think Charles is pointing out very interesting stuff worth pursuing.
>This
>> is the area I'm struggling to throughly understand.  The I Ching, The
Book
>> of Changes, uses this binary idea so there is an awe-full lot of
>commentary
>> concerning subjective meaning in this area.  I've seen that one of the
>> entities in the Eastern Kabballa is called  Binah.  I found in the SD, I
>> belief, a note indicating a connection of Binah with binary.  The symbol
>of
>> the circle or chakra with the diameter that follows(or rather is
>> simultaneous with) the circle or chakra with the central point seems to
>> relate to this and then the diameter relates to the circle or whole
chakra
>> bringing up the idea of Pi, etc.
>>
>> It seems the THINKER must take Unity at the Atmic level and polarize it
>into
>> Spirit-Matter at the buddhic level and then appear in the  "world" as the
>> Higher Self understanding the continous relationship of Spirit-Matter,
>> Energy-Matter at the scientific level and then be willing to "die" in
>order
>> to ascend once again from this scientific trinity(concrete mind, Ego,
>> Abstract mind)  back to the buddhic-intuitive dualistic continuum of Life
>> and then back to Unity at the Atmic level. "Light" would be given off
>during
>> the descent and absorbed in the ascent.
>>
>> I've free-associated a bit, but I get too excited when someone touches in
>> this area of contemplation.  This is group work, and I think the basis of
>> the renaissance for Theosophy in science and art worldwide, especially in
>> Russia.
>>
>> Thankyou, Charles.
>>
>> Kim, comments?
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles Sitwell <csitwell@xtra.co.nz>
>> To: theos-talk@theosophy.com <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 6:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
>> relationship toscience.
>>
>>
>> >Eugene Carpenter and others have been saying interesting things about
>> numbers,
>> >the significance of Zero, and One. I just thought I would throw in
> there
>> was a
>> >reference to binary arithmetic, that I find it interesting to consider
>the
>> the
>> >numbers 1 through seven in binary form (using three bits) written under
>> each
>> >other.
>> > Knowing the unfortunate effects of formatting in eMail I'm reluctant to
>do
>> it
>> >here, but as most of you will well know (but I don't want to mystify any
>> who
>> >don't :-) ) the sequence is 001, 010, 011, 100, 101, 110, 111.  My point
>is
>> that
>> >the leftmost position is zero for the upper triad, and 1 for the lower
>> >quaternary.  Also the alternating polarity idea for the levels (planes
of
>> >consciousness or whatever term you prefer) gets some support from the
>> rightmost
>> >column.
>> >It may of course be just coincidence? :-) but its interesting, at lest
to
>> me; so
>> >I thought I'd share it.
>> >Regards
>> >Charles Sitwell.
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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