Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00277)

Gene, I have little time just now to investigate your system in detail
(which differs a little from my own "working hypothesis"). I will love to do
it later, especially in light of the system of Leibniz, and other similar.
But I will share something with you: are you familiar with the secret
Himalayan schools? The Kashmir Shaivites, the Buddhist and Hindu
tantricists? They all differ somewhat in their outer form, but here is an
example of their teachings:

"In Mantrayoga Brahman is known as Bindu which possesses a force or Shakti
called Bija; of the union of Bindu and Bija or Shiva and Shakti is born Nada
which is otherwise known as Logos or Shabdabrahma or Pranava. A regular
current of sound is incessantly rising from the Muladhara upward and that
sound emanates externally from the very centre of the Universe."
[from MANTRAYOGA by H H MAHATAPASWI SHRI KUMARSWAMIJI]

(see Subba Row: Esoteric Writings, p. 287-288)
The highest triad may be represented by
a) "bindu", meaning "zero" or "point" (also "dot and "drop")
b) "bija" or germ, representing space or akasha. "In the root" may here
refer both to muladhara (Root chakra) and mulaprakriti.
c) "Nada (sound) otherwise known as the Logos" Bharthari the
grammarian-philosopher says that this Logos co-exists with the Kalashakti,
the energy of Time, the supreme force called Mahaprana (the Great Breath) in
some buddhist tantras.

There are some differences as to which of these basics represents Space (See
Subba Row and SD Proem - "Space, the eternal anupadaka", the "Germ in the
Root", and the "Great Breath". The shakti associated with the Logos
differentiates into iccha-shakti, jnana-shakti and kriya-shakti (or the
forces of Will, Wisdom and Activity)
***
The meaning "zero" for bindu is not found in Monier-Williams, I think, but
found in Borooah: "English Sanskrit Dictionary".

Kim

----- Original Message -----
From: Eugene Carpenter <ecarpent@co.la.ca.us>
To: <theos-talk@theosophy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Fundamental theosohical principles and their
relationship toscience.


> Kim,
>
> This means that one very well may have the empty state of consciousness at
> the top of the septenate, then, the second state that contains a
> representation of that empty state and then a third state that contains a
> representation of the second state: simply, the first three sets of set
> theory.
>
>
> (                         )
> (         (     )         )
> (        ( (    ) )      )
>
>
> This would be
>
>
> The Zero state of consciousness
> The One state of consciousness
> The Two(or binary) state of consciousness
>
>
> I know from the books by Robert Kaplan and Charles Seife that zero was
> represented by lots of symbols but mainly either a circle or a point or
dot
> so the third state could be
>
> (    ((  ))    )
>
>
> or
>
>
> (    ( . )    )
>
>
> depending on what was to be conveyed.
>
>
> This would be a representation of the empty state flashing forth in the
> third state like the first instant of the birth of a new star or sun or .
.
> . .SON
>
> and
>
> ( . )  is a symbol of our sun, Son. and Unity at the Atmic Level.
>
>
> If the Babylonians used a point or a dot to mean 10 it may also mean that
a
> dot was used to indicate the 1 and the 0 in unity or superpositioned like
> people mention in Quantum Mechanics.
>
> Wow!  Thanks.  This certainly is group work and food for group
> consciousness.
>
>
>
> Gene



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