Theos-Talk Archives (May 2000 Message tt00058)

Dear Peter,

Forgive me for my apparent implication that some of those involved in this 
dialogue might be Jesuits in disguise.:-)  It was an unnecessary aside which 
referred to some other concerns at the time, and I apologize if any 
"regulars" on this forum were offended. 

In the meantime, I think I have already explained, in several previous 
letters to Daniel, the technical position I have taken with reference to the 
use of the esoteric term "oblong squares" in the VOS, as well as Judge's 
editing of it.  I think I've covered it quite thoroughly, from this and an 
esoteric point of view, and hope we might soon be finished with this thread.

I'm sorry but I have not yet read your complete article (which I'm sure will 
be interesting to me) since my mail is backed up almost two weeks, I am 
taking letters in sequential order, and get even further behind while I 
answer them.  By now I have almost a hundred yet to read (and answer) since I 
participate in at least 6 scientific and theosophical forums.

Best Wishes,

Leon


In a message dated 05/03/00 8:39:44 PM, caduceus@dial.pipex.com writes:

>Dear Leon,
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>Thank you for at least accepting that my article on HPB's use of the term
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>"oblong squares" was offered as a sincere attempt to study Theosophy.
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>This should, in theory, allow a more constructive dialogue than accusing
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>people of being Jesuit deceivers, something I was sorry to see you write
>in
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>one of your mails on this topic.
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>With regards the term in question, you write:
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>> I can't see the connection with any "mysterious"
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>> theosophical teaching. The words "thin oblong square"
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>> is still a meaningless syntactical, technical and
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>> grammatical error.  However, if you wish to think
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>> that there's some sort of mysterious esoteric connection,
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>> and that HPB made such an  obvious error (which she seemed
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>> to repeat several times, as reported by you) in order to
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>> send a message to her intuitive students about something
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>> entirely different from the subject of the sentence those
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>> words appear in -- you are surely entitled to do so.
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>First of all, let me reply in kind by saying that of course you are entitled
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>to view this term as "meaningless", "an obviouse error" and as a
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>"grammatical error" if that is all you see in it.  However, to those
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>familiar with Occult Symbolism this term may not be seen as an "obvious
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>error" at all. Nor does HPB "seem" to repeat it a number of times. She
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>ACTUALLY DOES use the term a number of times (a correct term in the context
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>of which she uses it) and offers an explanation of *one* of its uses. 
>If
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>you take the trouble to read the references I offer in my article you will
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>discover HPB also refers to "Oblong cubes".
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>You also say:
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>> However, if there is such a connection (which I cannot
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>> imagine, except as some sort of science fictional fantasy
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>> dream:-) I would certainly like to hear your logical or
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>> intuitive explanation of it.
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>Actually you can do that by reading the article I posted after the one
>you
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>have just replied to below.    I did say to you that I was posting the
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>original article as a follow up mail, but from reading your words above
>and
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>the rest of your post it appears you have completely dismissed its value
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>before you have even read it.
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>You will also find many references to the term "oblong squares" in the
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>material that Daniel has just posted.
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>I hope that after some reflection on the article by myself and Daniel's
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>references you will find there is indeed something of Theosophical value
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>therein.
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>...Peter

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