Theos-Talk Archives (April 1999 Message tt00059)

April 5th 1999

Let us look at the doctrines that Theosophy offers.

Without exception it states that a MONAD overshadows the personality
of every mortal.  In other words it is part of the torture that a pure
spirit has volunteered to endure for the sake of the nascent Monad
that is leaving the "Kamic, or animal stage of consciousness" and is
becoming a man-mind consciousness.  If the pull of the animal is so
strong that the selfishness prevails and atrocities are committed then
the Divine Monad, suffers enormously.  Just as a mother suffers
vicariously to see a wayward child of hers who performs deeds or says
words that are selfish and injurious to others and ultimately to
itself.

In our heart's depths we always know that we cannot "escape" the
results of our sins and wrong-doings.  We know this because there we
ARE KARMA. In a way Karma is the operation of the Voice of conscience
in the future.

Karma operates always, and those who murder or torture will in some
life learn by being subjected to those forces just how terrible is the
emotional and feeling condition of one who is weak and powerless in
the hands of the merciless.

How does karma operate otherwise, we can only conjecture. No wonder
that a Constantine sought to escape the inevitable consequences of his
murderings.  Is Eusebius to then, be praised ?  What kind of a
beginning for the Christian Church was that ?

If at this stage it is so difficult for us to realize the nature of
the Higher Self, and we struggle not to understand the ideals of a
moral and an ethical life, and if we adopt religions that offer false
hopes and the remission of sins which they cannot do, then we may form
some opinion of the depth of our illness.  It is like living a
physiological nightmare in reality every day.

Much more can be added to this in the light of theosophy, but, perhaps
this is a beginning.

If more is desired, please ask again

Dallas

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              Dallas TenBroeck
              dalval@nwc,net




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Subject: Re: Theos-World "Murder" and "gifts"


In a message dated 4/4/99 9:13:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
caduceus@dial.pipex.com writes:

<<  Do you
 truly believe that the murderer, or torturer etc "knows the error at
some
 level and fully expects punishment at some time."?    >>

Peter,

Perhaps, it is more like this: the murderer, or torturer, etc., "knows
the
error at some
 level" but DOES NOT expect punishment ay ANY time. In this age of
extreme
material complexity, it seem that social morality (values) is the
first thing
to collapse. Under such circumstances it does not seem unreasonable to
expect
corresponding personality disorders. Excessive rationalizations, of
the sort
we see today, where we tell ourselves and others ANYTHING to get our
desires
fulfilled, can be observed anywhere one looks.

In such a scenario, I say, thank goodness for an impersonal system of
Karma,
which pays no attention to outer personality displays, but rather
addresses
the issues of Cosmic harmony and balance. I can trust in that.

Louis

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