Theos-Talk Archives (March 1999 Message tt00123)

Rich,

What in your opinion was the purpose of the original esoteric section as founded
by Madame B.?

Also can any one tell me more about the debate between Frank and Jerry?  I've been
sick for the last several weeks and haven't been reading my emails which number in
the 1000s.  I've looked thru all of them but can't seem to find the previous
subject thread between Frank and Jerry.  What are the basic differences between
Frank and Jerry on this subject?

Daniel


Richtay@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 3/1/99 1:40:46 PM, Frank wrote:
>
> <<>This serious esoteric crisis broke out in 1946 with the claim of Conger,
>
> >three months after he took office as TS leader, to hold the same occult
>
> >status as HPB and forced the members to accept him as new Outer Head of the
>
> >ES.
>
> And Jerry S. responded,
>
> <<The crisis was purely exoteric and historical addressing a human
>
> organization. I would challenge you to find anything "esoteric" at
>
> all in an outer organization changing its structure.>>
>
> Once again, I quite agree with Jerry.  In my opinion something is not
> "esoteric" because it is labeled that, or because someone told me it was
> esoteric.  The real esotericism, at least as far as the T.S. should be
> concerned, lies with the inner unfoldment of the nature of each member, due to
> devotion to the Gurus who brought the movement to the world and who (at first
> and for a long time) represent the SELF.
>
> The Masters started the original E.S., and the followers broke it into pieces
> during the time of Judge/Besant and then again and again and again.  The
> concern with each tiny piece (Point Loma, Pasadena, Adyar, Anthroposophy,
> Roerich, Bailey) and speaking of each piece as if it were THE ONE seems quite
> silly to me.  Who cares exactly why the Point Loma group shook up in the 1940s
> and some people went their separate ways?
>
> Do the Masters need a little esoteric group to work through?  Can't
> individuals grow spiritually through independent devotion to the Masters,
> through study, through work for humanity?  Is there anything "esoteric"
> besides this?
>
> Rich
>
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