Theos-Talk Archives (November 1998 Message tt00177)

>[Frank]:
>>The sexual link to Buddhist Tantricism was not withheld, easily because
HPB
>>had no such connections.
>
>
>She claimed to have been instructed by Tibetan Buddhists. She claimed
>to have visited Tibet. If this is true, then she absolutely had to know
>about
>the sexual element in Tibetan Tantra, yet she never said a word about it.
>If she was ashamed or embarrassed about it, then she couldn't have
>understood it. I suspect that she understood it very well. So, this leaves
>me
>to conclude that her silence was deliberate.
>
>>The more as Buddhistic Tantrica has nothing to do with sex. So you confuse
>>it with Indian Tantrica or is that a new teaching of Pasadena?
>
>
>I am absolutely amazed at your ignornace of Tibetan Tantra, Frank. Even
>HH the Dali Lama acknowledges the advantages of the karmamudra (action
>seal). Ever hear of yab-yum?  Ever see a picture of a Buddhist god
embracing
>a consort (frontal sex with god in lotus position and consort in lap).
>These
>things are both symbolic and literal. You need to get out more.
>
>Jerry S.


Jerry, openly said what you wrote about HPB practise sexual Tantra and
that the present Dalai Lama supports such things is the greatest baloney I
ever heard of. One can turn up all. First you claimed HPB had a link to it,
now you are writing she must have heard of it. That leads you to the
conclusion that she supported it and practized it. And if not you are
claiming that she had not understood it. That means for a silly one like me
that your intellectual and spiritual knowledge is far greater than HPB's.
Jerry, before I congratulate you should write a book greater than the Voice
of the Silence, then I will believe you are an Adept. But before this - and
if it is taken serious what you wrote - I prefer to belief that you are a
man with some complexes in the medical sense, making only selfish claims to
compensate for  something. The Dalai Lama is a bad witness for your claims.
I just talked a few weeks ago with a member of his staff. The next time when
I meet him I will tell him about your statement. And the iconography from
North-West Indian influences does not implicate that in vajrayana sex in
taught.  as everyone knows how got the ABC of Budhdhism.


No Sir, all what you ever wrote the last days about Theosophy, HPB, the
Masters and now about the Dalai Lama is
the evidence that you got nothing about all the objects your are talking
about so much. This is not a personal attack, I have no reason for it. But
if someone is writing continuous such unrealistic things as you did, I am
allowed to speak clear what your statements are (not your person): nothing
else than provocations and not based on the standard literature. To damn
Theosophists as fundamenalists is your substitutional satisfaction for a
lack of understanding. I doubt if you would have more efforts with your
methods you are using here in any other serious subject, be it astronomy,
physics or anything else. You are claiming yourself a member of the Pasadena
TS. As much as I do not agree with some of their policies I can hardly
believe that Pasadena supports such views about HPB and Theosophy as you
offer here before the public. I believe you are not a Theosophist and your
motive is only to make trouble among the Theosophists (perhaps
sub-conscious). Nearly all you wrote what I have seen was black magic (you
may laugh, but not for a long time. Insanity is always the end).
I wish you good luck with yab-yum. I would rather die before misuse myself
for hundred incarnations. But as you do not believe in karman (excuse me
that I use from your point of view an outmoded word, it is not blessed by a
scientific committee),
the more you hold Crowley's view as you wrote earlier you are lucky to be
free from all evil. BTW, the yab-yum is very outmoded, too. Nowadays it is
much easier. Only inject hashish three times a day.

Frank