Theos-Talk Archives (October 1998 Message tt00080)

Oct 22nd 1998

Dear Alan:

In regard to the average cycle between lives being between 1500
and 2000 years, this is only an average.  Theosophical doctrine
speaks of periods that vary between a few month or years to up to
10,000 years or more - depending on the nature of the moral
quality of the life that has just terminated.

There are many exceptions owing to the difference of individual
karma.

The after-death states of Kama-loka and Devachan depend for
length on the variety, quantity and quality of our earth life's
thoughts feelings and aspirations.

It might also be well to remember that the Spirit-Soul in each
human is an ETERNAL BEING.  Hence, time which for us is so heavy
is not so important a consideration for it in its evolution.  One
might say, with humor, that as we are today, each of us, half of
"Eternity" has elapsed and we are faced now with the second half.

If you have a copy of HPB's THE KEY TO THEOSOPHY and use the
INDEX at the rear of the book
You will find that she explains why there are these variants.

Length of stay in Devachan	see pp. 138-145
Length of stay in Kama-loka	see pp. 143-145, 127-9, 172-175

Some important variants that affect the length of stay between
lives are death by accident, murder, suicide, and the death of
children in infancy below the age of 10 usually.

If you desire further data I can send you a series of quotations
culled from various Theosophical sources that give the doctrines
in a more discursive manner, but I would have to send them by
mail to your address.

Best wishes,

Dallas

> From: Ray Tomes
> Sent:	Thursday, October 22, 1998 1:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Reincarnation Problem

<alan.wilkinson@diamond.co.uk> wrote:

>Hi Everyone.  I hope someone out there can help with a small
question
>regarding Reincarnation.  I read somewhere (I think in a W.Judge
article)
>that the period of rest between reincarnations is about 1500 to
2000 years.
>If I understood that correctly, then how does it fit in with the
teaching of
>the A.A and O.T.O. that state one can take a vow to 'return' in
3 months?

>The main puzzle is what happens if one does return after 3
months (because
>of the vow) and the other people who you have formed contact
with (and maybe
>karmic ties) return after 1500-2000 years?

Hi Alan.  I have no personal experience of this, so all this is
based
on others ideas.  I recently read that the average period is
about 100
years for every year of life and that the 1500 years is based on
the
average human living only 15 years.  Therefore a person living 75
years
might expect a 7500 year holiday.  However this is very rough,
and
generally lower types are supposed to come back sooner and higher
types
later.  However highly developed types such as the Dalai Llama
and Sai
Baba apparently come back very soon through choice as you
indicate is
possible.

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