Theos-Talk Archives (July 1998 Message tt00217)

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> From: "Christine Hanson" <cybercmh@aol.com>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:54:01 EDT
> Subject: Re: theos-talk-digest V1 #336
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> In a message dated 7/29/98 9:05:42 AM, Allan (?) wrote:
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> <<Experience of the Parabrahman as all expansive divine energy is the least of
> the 3 major spiritual realizations.>>
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> What are the other two?  I'm curious.

Knowledge of the "Supersoul" or the consciousness of the person of god withing heart.
Direct relation with the Divine person in the Supernal realm.

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>        You could be debated on many of these concepts -
> for instance my interpretation of "Parabrahman" is that it is
> NEVER experienced by any being because it is only a
> conceptual handle for the great and forever retreating
> Unknown and infinity  -   but I don't think it is fruitful to do a
> Dharma Battle and don't want to. To each his own...

I coudn't care less Jake what your interpretation or speculation is because that is all
it is.

>        Also, I think in one of the initiations or spriritual
> experiences - one completely looses his sense of
> Inidividuality and of course the wee wee little personality in
> the process - and is lost in the great ALL.  (Geez, a dog's
> consciousness would get utterly lost/destroyed if it ever
> even experienced our dinky little human  consciousness  -
> so I supposed we would get squashed in just experiencing
> the next level up - let alone Parabrahman.)

You talk like a total fool, obviously haven't understood a word I have said,  have no
comprehension either self or person.The little personality that is lost, is the false ego
you ill informed prat. You stupid boy, if you lose the sense of I then you don't exist!
If you lose "self referal" that is the "person" then you no longer exist at all.  You are
dead, gone, non existant.  Get it. Or do I have to run that by again for the hard of
thinking.  Why are you so bloody stupid that you can't see that the first stage of
experience of anything is to experience ones own being.  If you don't have that you can't
expereince anything because you don't exist.

The true I  is not the false ego.

Of course the dogs' consciousness ends when the soul transmigrates to the human form.
The expression of our consciousness in this universe is dependant on the covering (body).
I said this right at the start. Can't you read either or is your memory faulty?


It is you that is the cosmic nut.  You can't even understand first principles, and have
no grasp of spiritual matters at all.


Just don't even try to understand Jake, you won't get it, you simply are too ill
informed, too ill practised and too philosophically dense.


Allan

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> Kym
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The whole of the above was dross, human centered rubbish.

I thought you could have done better than that Kym.  If you don't understand what I say,
fine but done talk crap to try to challenge it.

It show a total lack of understanding of what I have been saying.  It is not philosophy,
it is a pathetic attempt to discredit something that you clear don't have the foggiest
about.

I have explained the position very carefully for everyone.   Yet few seen to have had the
slightest inkling what I am saying.

This is supposed to be  philosophy, spirituality, not some bloody minded book club that
can't see past the clowns who presented themselves as master.  The prats have fed the
world unmitigated crap for centuries.  Anyone with an ounce of brains or a modicum of
skill at meditation can SEE that it is crap.  The points I raised over the
impersonalist/buddhist school have not been answered.  They can't be answered
intelligently because the consequences of the school of thought being correct are too
horrible to contemplate.  These schools are leading people to nescience...... to doom.
To and endless round of existance in this universe and Nescience.

I apoligise in advance to those out there that actually debating the points with
themselves.


Allan.

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