Re: Re: Dr. Bain and "Real Evidence"
Jun 20, 1998 02:54 PM
by Dallas TenBroeck
Isn't it extraordinary how much we can get out of things ?
I have just scanned your long and interesting comments, but will
take a while to mull over the ideas and answer, so be a little
patient with me.
Wanted to acknowledge however. I see some interesting comments
you make there.
Best wishes as always, Dal.
> Date: Saturday, June 20, 1998 12:33 PM
> From: "Annette Rivington" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dr. Bain and "Real Evidence"
>W. Dallas TenBroeck wrote:
>> Annette -- you are quite right. But for those who have very
>> "organized" minds and who desire to be able to investigate
>> that which we know, they need those preliminary stepping
>> How do we help them ? That is what I had in mind. Dal.
>This is something I have not spent time thinking on. Presumably
>my experience has been that my life has been full of experiences
>learning opportunities that presented themselves sooner or later
>response to my requests. It was not until the last decade of my
>though, that I looked back on it from the point of view of an
>and analyst and could see the threads from "wish" to "receipt"
>over decades. It became very obvious to me that humans get to
>response to a genuine desire "to know". All humans have
>minds", so the process tends to be more or less standard across
>race. One "asks" or "wishes" for understanding and all kinds of
>events, resources, books, movies, dreams, ideas, appear to one,
>gift. If one chooses to go with it, one receives what one
>including the responsibility of becoming a fuller person.
>It definitely "helps" in the early stages to hear others say
>"do not fear, this may be strange, but is natural". It also
>when one gets stuck at one point in the process if another gives
>that worked for them. All these resources and methods "help",
>the crux of this thing called life seems to be to do it alone.
>to it alone and to transform alone in the time one takes.
>So, the action "help" can take many forms, all of which are
>when the seeker is seeking. I believe the concept you are
>that of encouragement for all human-kind to start the seeking
>because a closed mind tends to result in life in a void. One
>postulate that it is not possible to help someone who is not
>In the dark times it is easy to believe that. Until one is
>karma and the natural law and then one remembers that everything
>said, and thought impacts everything else in the universe so
>is best given by "being" a fully living person. It would be
>easy if humans could state the understandings of life in a
>"do-it-yourself" step by step program and then distribute it by
>means were the currently accepted ones. In fact we have been
>do that for some time now and have failed. I now believe that
>failure occurs because the race has separated itself from the
>Here I don't just mean a diconnection from the planet and
>things, but the whole natural way of life for our species....an
>imbalance in family, work, time, self, education, worship.
>To take one part of the problem and think one has solved it,
>by writing down ideas and speaking them to audiences with
>included for special effects for instance, appears to be working
>one gathers the results for analysis. The results show that
>"helped" by this method are the ones doing the writing and
>Also that the "hit rate" for permanent transformation of those
>is very small. Also that this process takes years and often
>to square one when the speaker passes on or the book becomes
>Contrast this method with the natural process of living with a
>grandparent, loving the grandparent, watching them do as they
>seeing it bring them peace and prosperity, and remembering all
of them -
>words, sights, smells, feelings - always, within. Extrapolate
>year time span to thousands of years!
>Look at all the good ideas that have fallen by the wayside.
>instance Maslow's theory of the Hierarchy of Needs. Satisfy the
>level needs of the physical and the higher level
>facilitated. Sounds logical. The approaches of our welfare
>our charitable organizations are based on this concept. It
>I cannot answer your question properly as yet. I need more
time. I am
>thinking on these ideas:
>perhaps we have strayed too far from the original plan and can
>brought back by an armageddon
>perhaps this state of affairs shows that the plan is very
>because the plan was to give us freedom of choice in which we
>our way and in so doing would struggle to find it again
>perhaps "help" for others is entirely superfluous and ego driven
>that is necessary is to be "self"
>I have read recently of a theory that the reason we do not use
>70% odd of our brain is because we shut it down when we, as a
>experienced traumatic cosmic events. That the memories are
>for all of us and that we can transcend the fear and unlock the
>I would like to pursue that idea and then get back to you.
>In the meantime, on a daily basis, if the people have the
>tell the stories, to communicate their experiences, to walk the
>at least the knowledge of the existance of the knowledge can
live and it
>seems can be spread, like a certain Bank once advertized - one
>at a time.
>So, dear Dallas, if in this lifetime you have chosen to go with
>state of being of a "talking books", we need that help, it is
>vain, it's a valuable part of the whole process. PART OF. Hey,
>writing to you about theosophy when I never expected to do so.
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