Theos-Talk Archives (April 1998 Message tt00543)

>I do understand. But my understanding is that 'Masters' and 'Gurus' are,
>as individuals, separate beings from me, just the same as anybody else;
>while as symbols, they are my own unrealized SELF, just the same as
>anybody else.

If you could see them and speak with them you would know them as separate
beings. But if you try to imagine what androgynous is and try to predict
(what with genetic engineering and such) what our human (or shared)
physical body will be in the future, then you could see yourself as a
manifestation of the energies from, not only two separate beings, but three

BECAUSE

When man became physical on our globe it was paired with an extinction of
the prior animal lifewave and the introduction of a variety of new animal
forms (possibly angelic lives which are essential to man's mental growth
and ecology of earth). Therefore angels are not to be ignored as they may
have a very definite role in releasing us from form on earth.

I am not saying that the animal lives or dinosaurs did not enjoy a lengthy
stay on earth, because geological records show that they have. But I am
saying that when the human lifewave descended - there was an overlap - and
that eventually the dinosaurs loosened their hold on the physical matter of
the globe. Not only did new physical bodies find their appearance, both
human and angelic (as I look at all the animals and plants currently on
earth as angelic in their inner nature), but FLOWERS have only existed on
earth for about 4 million years, I believe, and perhaps other physical
changes took place as well, such as atmosphere, etc. Look at the dates in
the SD. Mankind certainly was present when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
Wouldn't it be simpler to start with "the most advanced physical form" and
work up from there until we had our own?

When we look behind us, can't we perceive the future more accurately? Our
forms do not have to stay like they are today. I was studying how otters
can see very well at night because of crystals which reflect the light
being present in their eyes. It may be possible some day to genetically
splice useful animal characteristics into our human forms. We don't think
it is necessarily desireable, but from the point of view of a "next
evolutionary kingdom" perhaps there is some plan to bring our forms up to
the level of their existence. As this would be attempted, stages of various
physical bodies might be "split off" until the finished product is reached.
The "new and various" physical bodies would be too difficult for our human
life to ensoul, but angels could find residence in them under the guidance
and purposes of the next lifewave.

Theosophy teaches seven lifewaves and I am not arguing, but if we could be
released from our physical bodies through an interaction with beings who
are TRYING to become physical - even if that physical is beyond our
comprehension and better qualified as "turning the planet to light" - then
there would be a distinct purpose for the NEXT KINGDOMS presence here. It
is to ascend us. As they conspire to recreate physical bodies on earth, we
LEARN about our future existence. When we learn of the use and cooperation
of new physical attributes, we can PLAN our next descent to a future globe
of this chain. In this way, we begin both an endowment of our human lives
with new physical powers and an endowment of the animal lifewave with
greater consciousness of their vehicles and senses. As we descend and the
dinosaurs ascend, we cooperate. We HAND OFF to them an immortal flame and
receive ourselves their eternal flame and by this process can live in
physical bodies again. I admit their bodies are not that attractive, but
perhaps with complex COSMIC methods, could be converted into something
useful and beautiful.

I realize this is a rather fanciful picture, but when we read the SD, we
encounter many viewpoints which are not only ponderable, but can generate
our imagination. I hope I don't find too many objections to MY PARTICULAR
meanderings, but I do wish I could hear some others. There are lots of
creative minds out there.

>The work you do on yourself is the greatest gift you can offer another.
>Be who you ARE and act from there. There is nothing else to do. Your
>action will be without blame.

I suppose this includes ALL FREEDOM for genetic engineering! I think you
are ignoring many issues because we don't have authority for addressing
those issues here at the T.S.

Brenda