Theos-Talk Archives (March 1998 Message tt00070)

Over the years, there have been many ES members who have gone public in disgust.  That you have not seen
or know of them does not mean that they don't exist.  I have talked to some of them too, so I know they
are around.  Regarding your question, whether I believe that there is an aspect of the ES "that cannot
be revealed."  No I don't believe that.  But I do believe (rather, I'm certain of this) that there are
aspects that a dedicated ES member *will not reveal* simply because they are told not to repeat to
outsiders what is discussed in ES meetings.  Or if it is something that is OK to repeat, they are not
supposed to say that it was something that they discussed in an ES meeting.  That in itself can have a
sinister potential if you think about it.
jhe

Bart Lidofsky wrote:

> Jerry Hejka-Ekins wrote:
>
> > Thank you Bart.  I believe that this was exactly what you were told.  Yes, I have talked to many
> > ES members, wardens and even general secretaries over the past thirty-five years, and I can
> > assure you that you received a very standard answer.  But to say that they learn nothing that is
> > not available to the general public is really a non answer if you think about it. Even if they
> > embrace the entire corpus of theosophical literature, there is going to be a certain spin, a
> > certain interpretation. . .  are you getting my drift now?
>
>     From what I have been told, it is generally up to the individual E.S. group. The key to the E.S.
> is that they accept Theosophical doctrine as being correct, as opposed to the general membership,
> who accepts or rejects any or all of Theosophical doctrine at will.
>
>     Now, do you believe that there is an aspect of the E.S. about which the members of the E.S. you
> have talked to will not tell you, and won't even tell you that there IS such an aspect that cannot
> be revealed until one is a member of the E.S.? If so, and if it were more than a matter of ceremony,
> and ESPECIALLY if it is something sinister, then I am greatly surprised that there have not been any
> E.S. members, almost all of whom that I have met are good and dedicated people, have not gone public
> in disgust.
>
>     Bart Lidofsky
>
>