Theos-Talk Archives (January 1998 Message tt00124)

Dallas TenBroeck

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> From: "Keith Price" <email.msn.com>
> Subject: Re:Fractals and Kabbalah
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 1998 2:23 PM
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: "Brenda S Tucker" <brenda@theosophy.com>
> >Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 4:32 PM
> >Subject: Re:Fractals >
> >
	Dallas said:

> >>What I meant to say is that the MONAD being a part of the Universal All

> has
> >>properties that are the same as its source. To me, this includes
> eternity,
> >>as to time, and immortality as to its existence in the
past/present/future
> >>of which we are aware as memory (past) choice (present) and
anticipation
> >>(future) -- I hope that my meaning is now clearer
> >
> >>If from the theosophical point of view there is correctness, and the
Soul
> >>is the Real Man -- and his mind is one of its functions -- then it
> >>certainly bridges many gaps of consciousness, as for instance, sleep,
> >>trance, anesthesia, death, and the vast gap of Pralaya too -- that is
if
> >>Karma as Law is the governing fact of Universal existence.
> >>
> >>I wonder if this is of any help at all. do let me know.
> >
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> Keith Price: I am jumping in on this thread in mid weave, so to speak,
but
> I have been studying the kabbalah lately and seeing it a completely new
way.
> I think the whole idea of simple embedded patterns that endlessly
reproduce
> themselves in the manifest world or "nature" is common to all versions of

> the perenial wisdom or theosophy. That is the serphiroth or globes
provide
> a pattern of energy manifesting in lower states by means of the masach or

> screens between the planes such as unitive, intuitional, mental,
emotional,
> physical and so on.   I think (off the subject) that reality is circular.
That the universe as  seen with our senses, is very large is infinitely
large only as joke of maya, just the way that quatumn reality is a slippery
small that can always be divided if we look at it as particles instead of
waves propigating in
> circular patterns, maybe. This brings us back to an almost Ptolemic view
of the "real" nomenal universe rather the phenomenon that sticks to our
retinas and synapses like sticky glue.   The kabalah and many other modern
writers seen "light" or the photon as both wave and particle as the real
building block. This light is the glue and
> the screen and freezes into the gross oozing materiality of the physical
> world of the gasious, liquid, solid and energetic states.
> On the psychological plane, I have experienced the Light as a directly
> manifesting phenomenon in my mediating consciousness. It does all that is
claimed for it including cleansing, purifying, resturcturing the movement
> into stillness and the silence into the voice. The light is not a
physical
> particle, but a feeling of direct intimate relationship. Is love too
strong
> a word?
> Namaste
> Keith in Houston
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Dallas' comment:

Kabala derived from Jews/Chaldeans was itself derived from the "Oriental
Kabala" of which HPB speaks repeatedly in ISIS.

It is natural that the ideas there are comparable to those of Theosophy and
in fact with the SOURCE teachings of any religion or philosophy.  WISDOM is
one, the ways of understanding WISDOM vary with the student, who makes his
own constructs depending on the way in which he applies what he already
knows.  The process of gaining certainty would then revolve around the
comparison/addition/elimination of ideas and concepts which are found to be
universal (hence basic) or partially true (hence faulty and limited).

Truth seems to be something that is no one's property, but all can share in
the joy and adventure of seeking and approaching to it.

All that Theosophy has done is to make available to us the concenntrated
fruit of many thousands of individual's researches and many countless years
of examining reports to discern the facts that are universally actual.

At any point we are limited by what we know up to that moment.  The fact
that we sense that there is (intuitively) some greater truth, or basis for
search, that indicates to us that inwardly there is some aspect of
ourselves which is time-less, universal, eternal, and is well aware of the
limitations of the "brain-mind" -- which is our consciousness here and now.

At least that is how I see it.

It is only natural to visualize the Universe of our cognizance as a sphere,
and thoughts running in circles, back to a source which in time has gone
into memory as it is PAST.  Hence it is not a perfect circle ever, but
always a spiral.  The mind-brain-consciousness revolves around its CENTER,
the HIGHER SELF as the one secure hold that it has on ETERNITY, INFINITY
and the concept of the ABSOLUTE as a background that encompasses all.

In my esteem it is essential that we read and study carefully the first 200
pages of the Secret Doctrine to garner from that the necessary background
that enables us to work with the remnants of the old systems including the
Kabala.

A careful read through the KEY TO THEOSOPHY gives us a view of the way in
which the fundamental ideas operate in us and in our world around us,
without making any exception.  It is time well spent doing this, as we are
then furnished with ideas that enable us to review what we already know and
to go forward in trying to acquire greater certainty and wisdom.

This is my humble but also very certain urging.			Dallas

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