Theos-Talk Archives (January 1998 Message tt00110)

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>From: "Brenda S Tucker" <brenda@theosophy.com>
>Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 4:32 PM
>Subject: Re:Fractals >
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>>What I meant to say is that the MONAD being a part of the Universal All
has
>>properties that are the same as its source. To me, this includes
eternity,
>>as to time, and immortality as to its existence in the past/present/future
>>of which we are aware as memory (past) choice (present) and anticipation
>>(future) -- I hope that my meaning is now clearer
>
>>If from the theosophical point of view there is correctness, and the Soul
>>is the Real Man -- and his mind is one of its functions -- then it
>>certainly bridges many gaps of consciousness, as for instance, sleep,
>>trance, anesthesia, death, and the vast gap of Pralaya too -- that is if
>>Karma as Law is the governing fact of Universal existence.
>>
>>I wonder if this is of any help at all. do let me know.
>
>It would help me if you could see the distinction I'm trying to make
>between eternal and immortal. We humans are in an eternal state because we
>are cycling in birth and death. Other beings, including early man, would be
>in an immortal state of existence because they don't take physical bodies
>and then cast them off YET. For instance wasn't 1st race man in his etheric
>bodies. Well, if I were in an etheric, hovering state and trying to become
>physical, it would benefit me to try to stay within the BEST physical
>bodies available on the planet (that would be the dinosaurs) and to try to
>develop my own previously attained level of physical existence and form
>from what was available PHYSICALLY in the body of the dinosaur.
>
>I'm hoping that some day we can trade our eternal existence with masters
>and assume their immortal existence (in our seventh race). Is there
>anything in THE SECRET DOCTRINE about humans some day becoming undying?
>
>Brenda
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Keith Price: I am jumping in on this thread in mid weave, so to speak, but
I have been studying the kabbalah lately and seeing it a completely new way.
I think the whole idea of simple embedded patterns that endlessly reproduce
themselves in the manifest world or "nature" is common to all versions of
the perenial wisdom or theosophy. That is the serphiroth or globes provide
a pattern of energy manifesting in lower states by means of the masach or
screens between the planes such as unitive, intuitional, mental, emotional,
physical and so on.
I think (off the subject) that reality is circular. That the universe as
seen with our senses, is very large is infinitely large only as joke of

maya, just the way that quatumn reality is a slippery small that can always
be divided if we look at it as particles instead of waves propigating in
circular patterns, maybe. This brings us back to an almost Ptolemic view of
the "real" nomenal universe rather the phenomenon that sticks to our retinas
and synapses like sticky glue.
The kabalah and many other modern writers seen "light" or the photon as both
wave and particle as the real building block. This light is the glue and
the screen and freezes into the gross oozing materiality of the physical
world of the gasious, liquid, solid and energetic states.
On the psychological plane, I have experienced the Light as a directly
manifesting phenomenon in my mediating consciousness. It does all that is
claimed for it including cleansing, purifying, resturcturing the movement
into stillness and the silence into the voice. The light is not a physical
particle, but a feeling of direct intimate relationship. Is love too strong
a word?
Namaste
Keith in Houston