Theos-Talk Archives (December 1997 Message tt00091)

Dear Dallas:

It seems that we use the same source of information, my assertions
in the previous posting also drawn from "the Inner Group Teachings of
H.P.B." besides her major works and "Collected Writings". Since both of
us accept the consistency of her teaching dispersed through out numerous
writings though the earlier teaching was more veiled, the difference in
our conclusions (mine is that with the dissolution of Linga-Sarira there
will be no link or attraction between physical organ and other principles)
drawn from the same source must stem from flaw in our chain of reasoning
somewhere and the usefulness of the discussion is that it may bring
this to light.

I've used the old terminology as in HPB's time to avoid confusion,
in current usage the best fit for "Linga-Sarira" is "Etheric body".

> In studying the 7 principles of man it dawned on me that each of these
must
> be also itself 7-fold, so that the "49 fires" concept may make an
> understanding of this question possible.

There are seven primary Elements or Forces in nature with its seven
ramifications and each one of these Forces or Tattvas, which are
manifestations of the seven Hierarchies, has correlation with our
principles from Adi Tattva with Auric Envelop or Atma down to Prithvi
Tattva with physical body, correlations also exist between different
groups by mean of their subdivision, the fact that our natures partake
in these forces make it possible for us to control them which is the
aim of every occultist, however there is no indication that
influence from higher plane can act directly on physical matter or physical body,
there has to be organized etheric matter (Linga-Sarira) to function as
transducer.

An adept who does not retain his Linga-Sarira to be exist as Nirmanakaya
after his death is totally impotent in the physical plane, no spirits
or spooks can make any physical manifestation in the seance rooms
without using Linga-Sarira of the medium.

> If we visualize the astral body as that which maintains permanency of form
> for an incarnation, then the forcible introduction of "foreign" issues,
> liquids, substances into the physical body brings their astral counterpart
> along with them.  Hence the conflict between the new and the old which
> requires the use of rejection suppressing treatments, which are not always
> successful.

Our vibration, which is the specific keynote of our individuality, HAD BEEN
translated down to physical plane when we began our incarnation by
selecting appropriate genetic material and was expressed as surface
antigen on our cells to be recognized as "self". The reaction of "self"
against "not-self" can be modulated by purely physical means. Linga-Sarira
only strengthen the immunologic system by vitalize its direct vehicle,
white blood cells, the residual of these cells in the transplant organ
without its living master may even strongly fight back and overcome the
recipient resulting in fatal graft versus host reaction.

Since the clinical use of cyclosporin in 1983 the success rate of
organ transplant is always increasing. Now the three-years survival
rate of organs obtained from unrelated donors in kidney transplant
is about 85%, with the discovery of new drugs and other methods of
immuno-modulation organ transplant will be as common as removing
our appendices.

If we are all One in our highest principles why should we become worry
when the lowest began to show their lack of boundary of self and their
reaction of "self" against "not-self" is under our control? In reality
the separate self exist only in the middle principle, the real animal
center, whereas our body is but its irresponsible shell.

> Would it not be reasonable to consider that the physical organ brings with
> it a portion of the Astral body, the pranic currents, etc... associated
> with its original user?

Yes, in my previous posting I've used the term magnetism for this
portion since no higher principles should be considered as localize
in space and fixed to the organ. There is also synchronicity between
tissues of the same person even when they are separated (similar to EPR
correlation in physics) and certain links with its LIVING owner.

We have reached the middle point of our cycle and are on the ascending
arc with the process of etherealize ourselves along with the globe,
however before we reach that perfect state isn't it likely that humanity
will share the same genetic materials of the best types with no problem
with organ transplants?

Best Wishes and Merry Christmas to All.

May the Power of Almighty Love draw us nearer to our Goal
and become what we really are "Existence-Knowledge-Bliss"

Visanu