Theos-Talk Archives (November 1997 Message tt00409)

Please give a reference to the statement that "HPB thought of the TS as
a recruiting camp for Chelas". As I understand the history of the
Theosophical Movement only HPB and the Mahatma was in communication with
each other. How could any one else Know what was being planed for the TS
in 1875 let alone in 1997. There has been to much on this site from
people who are miss leading those who know very little about The Madam
and the Mahatma she was under. Its is time for all true students of
THEOSOPHY to defend this great soul against the insults of the SJ. And
for the record this cycle of the Theosophical Movement and Tsong-Kha-Pa
are very much connected since the 14th century.
 Spencer
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bhive888 (Bruce)" <bhive888@pac.com.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 1997 12:27 AM
> Subject: Re:The Mahatmas/soulless corpse
>
> Our learned friend MKR writes
> > But couple of things are reasonable to consider. Firstly HPB having
> been
> > instrumental in launching the TS, I dont think we should ignore her
> quotes
> > as to why TS was launched and what the prime object was.
>
> The concepts of Motherhood and Brotherhood cannot reasonably argued
> with.
> They pre-date Theosophy by thousands of years. But just preaching
> about
> Brotherhood without the spiritual teachings in place is like telling
> your
> fireplace to get warm, without putting in the wood and lighting it.
>
> If 19th century materialistic thinking was allowed to continue on the
> way
> it
> was going, unchecked by the spiritual revelations brought forward by
> H.P.B., there would have been dire consequences for Humanity as a
> whole.
> These thoughts worked homeopathically as a salve, which helped herald
> in a
> new era.
>
> "Colonel Olcott thought of the Society as an organisation for
> developing
> Brotherhood and religious tolerance. H.P.B. thought of it not in that
> light
> alone, but also as a recruiting camp for Chelas who, after occult
> training,
> would carry on the work from generation to generation.....
>
> " This divergence in objective became most marked after the Couloumb
> attack
> in 1884. Colonel Olcott almost went out of his way to ignore the
> occult
> basis of the society; so far did he go that, about 1888, the Master
> K.H.
> told H.P.B. that
> "the Society has liberated itself from our grasp and
> influence and we have let it go- we make no unwilling slaves. He says
> he
> has saved it? He has saved its body, but he allowed through fear its
> soul
> to escape; it is now a soulless corpse, a machine run so far well
> enough,
> but will fall to pieces when he is gone. Out of the three objects the
> second alone is attended to, but it is no longer either a
> brotherhood, nor
> a body over the face of which broods the spirit from beyond the Great
> Range. His kindness and love of peace are great and truly Gautamic in
> their
> spirit; but he has misapplied that kindness."
>
> H.P.B.'s memorandum of this talk with the Master is at Adyar.
> Foreword in Letters from the Masters of Wisdom, second series, C.
> Jinarajadasa T.P.H. Adyar 1925
> It was with these concerns that H.P.B. later formed the Esoteric
> Section.
>
> Bruce
>
>
>