Theos-Talk Archives (March 2012 Message tt00007)

Please see the following:

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On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 10:47 AM, M. Sufilight
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> Dear MKR
>
> I did not find them there....Did I overlook them?
>
> In this link we find a part of the Bye-Laws and the Preamble to the
> Bye-Laws from 1875.
> But all the Bye-Laws from 1875...are they not online ???
> http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/gfkforum/ourdir.htm
>
> __________________________
> I did however find the following...
>
> "When prophets die: the postcharismatic fate of new religious movements"
> By Timothy Miller - page 219:
> "15. Earlier Rules drawn up in 1879, just after the founders had come to
> India, stated that the president was under the autority of the Masters who
> constituted the "First Section" of the Society. The Rules were revised in
> 1885 to drop the reference to the Masters. See "The Theosophical Society,
> or Universal Brotherhood, Principle, Rules, and Bye-Laws, as revised in
> General Counsil, at the meeting held at the Palace of H. H. maharajah of
> Vizianagram, Benares, 17th December, 1879)" in the Theosophist, 1 (April
> 1880): 179-180; Ransom, A Short History, 123, 229."
> http://books.google.com
>
> _______________________________________
> _______________________________________
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> The THEOSOPHIST April, 1880, p. 179-180:
> THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY, OR UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD.
> "[Formed at New York, U. S. of America, October 30th, 1875.]
> Principles, Rules, and Bye-Laws, as revised in General Council, at the
> meeting held at the Palace of H. H. the Maharaja of Vizianagram, Benares,
> 17th, December, 1879."
> .......
> [For instance...: ]
> "VII. The President-Founder has authority to designate any Fellow of
> capacity and good repute to perform, pro tempore, the duties of any office
> vacated by death or resignation, or whose incumbent may be obliged to
> absent himself for a time. He is also empowered and required to define the
> duties of all officers, and assign specific responsibilities to Members of
> the General Council, not in conflict with the general plans of the Society.
> VIII. These plans are declared to be as follows: â
>
> (a)â To keep alive in man his spiritual intuitions. (b)â To oppose and
> counteract â after due investigation and proof of its irrational nature â
> bigotry in every form, whether as an intolerant religious sectarianism or
> belief in miracles or anything supernatural.
> (c)â To promote a feeling of brotherhood among nations; and assist in the
> international exchange of useful arts and products, by advice, information,
> and co-operation with all worthy individuals and associations; provided,
> however, that no benefit or percentage shall be taken by the Society for
> its corporate services.
> (d)â To seek to obtain knowledge of all the laws of Nature, and aid in
> diffusing it; and especially to encourage the study of those laws least
> understood by modern people, and so termed the Occult Sciences. Popular
> superstition and folk-lore, however fantastical, when sifted, may lead to
> the discovery of long-lost but important secrets of Nature. The Society,
> therefore, aims to pursue this line of inquiry in the hope to widen the
> field of scientific and philosophical observation.
> (e)â To gather for the Society's library and put into written forms
> correct information upon the various ancient philosophies, traditions, and
> legends, and, as the Council shall decide it permissible, disseminate the
> same in such practicable ways as the translation and publication of
> original works of value, and extracts from and commentaries upon the same,
> or the oral instructions of persons learned in their respective
> departments. (f)â To promote in every practicable way, in countries where
> needed, the spread of non-sectarian education. (g)â Finally, and chiefly,
> to encourage and assist individual Fellows in self-improvement,
> intellectual, moral, and spiritual. But no Fellow shall put to his selfish
> use any knowledge communicated to him by any member of the First Section;
> violation of this rule being punished by expulsion. And before any such
> knowledge can be imparted, the person shall bind himself by a solemn oath
> not to use, it to selfish purposes, nor to reveal it, except with the
> permission of the teacher."
> .......
> "XI. The Society consists of three sections. The highest or First Section
> is composed exclusively of proficients or initiates in Esoteric Science and
> Philosophy, who take a deep interest in the Society's affairs and instruct
> the President-Founder how best to regulate them, but whom none but such as
> they voluntarily communicate with have the right to know.
>
> The Second Section embraces such Theosophists as have proved by their
> fidelity, zeal, and courage, and their devotion to the Society, that they
> have become able to regard all men as equally their brothers, irrespective
> of caste, colour, race, or creed; and who are ready to defend the life or
> honour of a brother Theosophist even at the risk of their own lives.
>
> The administration of the superior Sections need not be dealt with at
> present in a code of rules laid before the public. No responsibilities,
> connected with these superior grades, are incurred by persons who merely
> desire ordinary membership of the third class.
>
> The Third is the Section of Probationers. All new Fellows are on
> probation, until their purpose to remain in the Society has become fixed,
> their usefulness shown, and their ability to conquer evil habits and
> unwarranted prejudices demonstrated.
>
> Advancement from Section to Section depends upon merit only. Until a
> Fellow reaches the first degree of the Second Section, his Fellowship gives
> him but the following rights â (1) to attend the Society's meetings, (2)
> access only to printed matter, such as books and pamphlets of the Society's
> Library, (3) protection and support by the President and Council in case of
> need and according to personal merit, (4) instruction and enlightenment,
> upon what he reads and studies, by Fellows of the Second Section; and this
> whether he remains at home or goes abroad and wherever he finds a Branch of
> the Theosophical Society: every Fellow being obliged to help the others as
> much as the circumstances, in which he is placed, will allow."
> .......
> "The Society repudiates all interference on its behalf with the
> Governmental relations of any nation or community, confining its attention
> exclusively to the matters set forth in the present document, and hoping
> thus to enjoy the confidence and aid of all good men."
> .......
> "Revised and ratified by the Society, at Bombay, February the 26th, and
> 28th, 1880.
> ATTEST â KHARSEDJI N. SEERVAI,
> Joint Recording Secretary."
> .....
> [Followed by a note...:]
> "THE ADDRESS BY".......
> http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/theosoph/theos7a.htm
>
> http://www.theosopher.net/dzyan/theosophist/theosophist_v1_n7_april_1880.pdf(Scanned copy)
>
> THE SO-CALLED THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY AT GHAZIPORE
> (The non-existent Society at Ghazipore.......Could be compared to present
> day attempts of various "copy"-versions...)
> http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v4/y1882_092.htm
>
> "The Seven Principles of the Movement" by Carlos Cardoso Aveline
> (With some views on the Bye-laws given in 1879-1880...)
> http://www.theosophyonline.com/ler.php?id=110#.T1Y1PFErjEw
>
> _________________________
>
> The we find an interesting article here on the Theosophical Society and
> the organic development of its structure ......
> Something like this is not being talked about the modern day theosophical
> magazines...We can only wonder why....?
>
> The Theosophist October 1888 to April 1889
> By H. P. Blavatsky - Page 301-307 --- especially page 304 on how the three
> or more main Obejcts first came to light.
> "(a) To keep alive in man his belief that he has a soul, and the universe
> a Gud.
> (b) To oppose and counteract bigotry in every form, whether as an
> intolerant religious sectarianisme, or belief in miracles, or anything
> supernatural."
> .......
> "(f) To promote in every practicable wat, in countries where needed, the
> spread of non-sectarian western education."
> http://books.google.com
>
> That is clearly to say...: Non-sectarian education.
> And I add: And therefore also in Adyar today, I hope...
>
> ________________
>
> So one more time we have...
>
> H. P. Blavatsky wrote very interestingly about the Theosophical Society:
> "The chief aim of the Founder of the Eclectic Theosophical School was one
> of the three objects of its modern successor, the Theosophical Society,
> namely, to reconcile all religions, sects and nations under a common system
> of ethics, based on eternal verities." (p. 3-4, 2nd ed., 1890)
> http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/aKEY.htm
> (That is - reconcile - ALL SECTS - and therefore TODAY also ALL
> THEOSOPHICAL GROUPS, ORGANISATIONS AND OFFSHOOTS THEREOF. - Do you not
> agree my dear readers??? --- And to all readers: And what have you my dear
> altruistic friends done on this lately - while promotiong altruism? --- - I
> can hear the answer: Silence...silence and almost a contempt for the truth
> and compassion in these very logical words and questions.)
>
> So I ask in the name of ALTRUISM and from all of my Heart:
> So why do we have the various theosophical groups and organisations like
> the ULT's, Pasadena TS, Adyar TS, and all the rest?
> What are they good for if they cannot join hands in the name of
> altruism??? Why not at least be affilliated to each other if you claim the
> same original program and Bye-Laws - ie. centrally speaking and in essence?
>
> M. Sufilight
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MKR
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 3:16 PM
> Subject: Re: theos-talk The original TS Bye-Laws - are gone bye bye?
>
> I think they are at teozofija.info in the members section. Have you looked
> at the site?
>
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:49 AM, M. Sufilight
> <global-theosophy@YRBpH68mO-njEwbmS86sS28j_cgE4vmGYqwaUPGHAL9hz88ZbiDqLpzDBS0e1Xg91m4Yj-e8QiWfgIlTn6r-Z5ZqzCc_iA0.yahoo.invalid>wrote:
>
> > Dear friends
> >
> > Sometimes I wonder...
> >
> > Preamble of the T.S.
> > Dated October 30, 1875; reprinted in The Theosophical Forum, September
> > 1947, pp. 515-18
> > http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/gfkforum/ourdir.htm#Preamble
> >
> > But it is also known that there were som so/called Bye-Laws. Where are
> > those Bye-Laws today???
> > I have never seen them online.
> >
> >
> > H. P. Blavatsky wrote:
> > [A copy of the Preamble and By-Laws of The Theosophical Society is pasted
> > in H.P.B.âs Scrapbook, Vol. I, pp. 77-79. On top of the first column,
> above
> > the title, H.P.B. wrote in blue pencil :]
> > The Child is
> > born!
> > Hosannah!
> > http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v1/y1875_031.htm
> >
> > Can we have these Bye-Laws online in PDF and HTML?
> >
> > Lack of emphasis on how the Theosophical Society originally operated,
> when
> > it was founded backed by the Masters, (if we should believe the words by
> > Blavatsky) --- can not be healthy. Well, that seems logical.
> > (See The Original Programe here ---
> > http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v7/yxxxx_019.htm )
> >
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> > Can we have these Bye-Laws online in PDF and HTML?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > M. Sufilight
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